RyanA

Yes, I know that a .63 would be better but I'd like to know what this turbo is capable of doing. Would it be nice on a stock B16? It's a Garrett and the numbers on it are: .48 on exhaust housing, .60 on compressor. Have a cast manifold I could use with it if it would be a fun daily driver type deal. I don't care one bit about top end hp, I just want something with lots of torque fast.

Anyone have some real life experience with this? Is it a decent turbo or just a lost cause?

Sorry, I'm an all motor guy so I'm clueless on the turbo Hondas for the mostpart.

sstecker

i have a new never installed garret 50 trim/.48 trying to get rid of. picts at http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...4015_large.jpg
new,never installed - garret T3/T04E 50 trim - 5 bolt turbine discharge with .48 a/r - bought from boostfactory.net, delivered from atpturbo looking for $550 shipped new is 695+ship

selling at my main forums over at bimmerforums.com and neons.org
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1584351
and
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=373180

i had sized it for 240whp from 3500rpm to 7000rpm to be a torque monster. figured its more of a 4 piston size so trying over here to sell it.

RyanA

yeah, I have a brand new one, too. Just trying to figure out if it would be fun for a daily driven B16.

Also, I have my new one for sale for 400. That is a couple hundred cheaper than yours.
http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2882283

RyanA

Anyone? There are no definitive answers I have really seen. Pretty much every post that mentions a .48 exhaust side people say "go 57 trim". I want to know, what kind of wheel hp is this capable on if installed on a bone stock B16? I found one thread that used to have a .48 vs .63 comparison but the link is broken. As long as this turbo is capable of 240 whp or a little over, I'd be happy.

Any useful responses are appreciated.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Because of the high efficiency burn of the B16 VTEC engine, a .63A/R would be fine, and would keep the midrange torque in a good powerband. Though a .48A/R can be used in order to have torque a little lower in the rpm band, the .63 is bast for the B16.

darkvader0

Have had a .50-trim T04E with both a .48 and a .63 housing on my B18C setup. Have to agree with using .63. The .48 you can FEEL fall off after 6K RPM.

RyanA

Thanks, guys.

blackeg

ok, to counter that my friend has a .48 exhaust on his b16 and you cant feel it die off above 6000rpm....


if you already have the turbo then i would slap it on there and get rockin. it will still make power to where i would want to upgrade my internal parts

RyanA

If I use it, here would be the scenario:

Put a stock B16 in my car. Put the turbo setup on the car, tune and drive it. While driving, get my real setup finished off (need to find turbo, manifold, injectors, S300). After it's all done and ready to go, pull the stock turd and little turbo and put the real deal in during a weekend. Once I'd start driving it that coming Monday, people would be used to something different so a surprise would be in store....

If it's not all that on a stock B16, I'll just sell it before it gets any exhaust flowed through it since it's worth more that way.

darkvader0

Maybe the .2L difference in displacement lets the .48 get the job done without too much loss up top?

Anyway if you do go ahead and install the .48 and you don't like it, it's only about $150 or so for a new housing. You don't have to change anything else about the turbo. Simple swap.

MaxPow3r

Use it. Should support 300 crank hp, but as said, with a .48 AR, may drop off a bit after 6k.

Exhaust and turbine wheel upgrades are easy to find for it.

RyanA

Pretty sure you have to change the turbine wheel and housing. I know when I went from a .96 exhaust side to a .63, I swapped out the wheel and the housing.

hateshino

the great thing about b16 is its rev happy with a higher redline.

a .48 would be more suitable for the d16 as it redlines lower. itll help you spool faster and have a more useable powerband from say 3000-6000 rpm.

if you already plan to boost the b16, id suggest to get the .63 ar for the turbine housing so you can get the most out of your turbo. itll spool a tadddd later but be able to pull to redline for the b16

d16 with .48 turbine with .42 compressor can hit high 200s maybe low 300s (assuming built block) with good spool

b16 with .48 turbine and .42 compressor will spool pretty quick, but will take a poop and be out of its efficiency range come 6k rpm and youll lose 2-3000 rpm that the b16 has left in its rev range.

b16 with .63 turbine and .42 compressor will spool a tab later, but will pull strong all the way to redline on the b16. should be able to hit 300 no problem. (i hear you can hit 300 with a really good tune on stock block b16)

feel free to correct me if im wrong

RyanA

this is a .48 turbine, .60 compressor.

Pretty sure it's considered a 50 trim?

hateshino

oh .60 compressor, get the .63 turbine. your b16 will def hit 300whp

hateshino

ithink a .60 compressor and .48 turbine 50 trim is similar to the super 60-1? not 100% positive. but i think the t3 super 60-1 on a d16 tops out around 300whp. its a popular turbo for the turbo d16 crowd.

ekturbo13

i have that same t3t4 .48 exh. on my built ls vtec and it made 360whp and 300 torque, its a fun turbo but it does die off after 7k, pretty sure you can hit 300hp

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Super 60 and 60-1 are completely different turbochargers, neither one which conform to a 50 trim compressor wheel w/ stage III T31 exhaust turbine wheel.

hateshino

ah ha, thanks shodan, i learn something everyday

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

No problem. Hell, we all start somewhere...No one is perfect.