well pulled my plugs ... please take a look
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well pulled my plugs ... please take a look
sorry this is the closest pic i could take without it getting blurry. i pulled them right when i got home and i took a pic 5 mins later. maybe this is the concrete proof for my pinging thread i posted earlier?
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (speedworks)
hehe ... well saying my hondata is untuned would be an understatement.
any short term fixes? retard timing 2 degrees?
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[Modified by Trigun, 7:49 PM 6/19/2002]
any short term fixes? retard timing 2 degrees?
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[Modified by Trigun, 7:49 PM 6/19/2002]
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (00SilverLS)
my fuel setup is hondata 2b, aem fpr, walbro intank pump and rc 440cc injectors. baseline fuel pressure is set at ~45 right now.
so turning up the fuel pressure can compensate for the lack of fuel? what about retarding timing?
so turning up the fuel pressure can compensate for the lack of fuel? what about retarding timing?
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (Trigun)
my fuel setup is hondata 2b, aem fpr, walbro intank pump and rc 440cc injectors. baseline fuel pressure is set at ~45 right now.
so turning up the fuel pressure can compensate for the lack of fuel? what about retarding timing?
so turning up the fuel pressure can compensate for the lack of fuel? what about retarding timing?
My plugs looked like that before I had a new map put into the ecu. Then again my stock fuel pump couldnt deliver either.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (93LSivic)
45 atmospheric right? As in with the hose off. You should set it around 50 atmospheric.
My plugs looked like that before I had a new map put into the ecu. Then again my stock fuel pump couldnt deliver either.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (Trigun)
did you hear any audible pinging with your old hondata map?
Be careful. Get on a wideband. Invest in an EGT (my next purchase).
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (Trigun)
White plugs does not always mean "lean". How many miles were they in the car?
The magic tan color doesnt automatically appear on the plugs, you gotta run them for a short while before you can really get a reading from them.
The magic tan color doesnt automatically appear on the plugs, you gotta run them for a short while before you can really get a reading from them.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (93LSivic)
Not really, but then again I also run open dp. I wish I had an EGT though. I think I may have cracked a ringland or hurt one of the pistons, cause now I am burning oil. But a leakdown and compression shows minimal damage?!? Weird...
Be careful. Get on a wideband. Invest in an EGT (my next purchase).
Be careful. Get on a wideband. Invest in an EGT (my next purchase).
i'm definately getting this detotation thing ironed out before i drive the car again. i kinda boosted happily on the way home today though
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (Trigun)
damn! you think your motor took a dive already?!
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (RioNinja)
How many miles were they in the car?
the plugs definately don't look right though .. too much white/gray.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (CleanSi)
yea true, 30 miles is deffently not enough to get a good reading...go like a 1000 then pull em. Do you have a a/f guage??? best way to see if your running lean..
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (aemcivic_02917)
50-100 miles is enough for the reading to show up. I pulled my plugs out after 15 miles when I was running REALLY rich and the damn things where fouled up already. Also... get COLDER plugs!! If you are running the stock plugs in the engine you can run all the fuel you want, but they will still be white. You have to run 1 heat range colder for turbo with intercooler... 2 for supercharger or turbo w/o intercooler. The 2 heat ranged colder plugs on both apps are for anyone running 8-10 psi... much more heat there.
If you don't have colder plugs, get them... Then try it again... Also bring up the fuel a bit, but the plug heat range is a bigger factor then what people think... especially with detonation...
If you don't have colder plugs, get them... Then try it again... Also bring up the fuel a bit, but the plug heat range is a bigger factor then what people think... especially with detonation...
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (JRSCCivic98)
Clean the plugs and put them back in. Then after a hard 3rd pull (granted no pinging) check the plugs again. They will be most accurate then.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (Trigun)
Wow...it a mirror image of my plugs.
Hey, Trigun....I put my fuel pressure up to 4.2kg/cm^2(60psi) and my plugs were still coming out white with pretty much no boosting. Highest EGT I saw was in the 620C range. I think you should get it tuned with a wideband. I would hate to see you damage your engine.
Hey, Trigun....I put my fuel pressure up to 4.2kg/cm^2(60psi) and my plugs were still coming out white with pretty much no boosting. Highest EGT I saw was in the 620C range. I think you should get it tuned with a wideband. I would hate to see you damage your engine.
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Re: well pulled my plugs ... please take a look (RioNinja)
White plugs does not always mean "lean". How many miles were they in the car?