the.hamburglar

i found a good deal on a used hybrid turbo. from the pic i know its oil cooled but it also looks water cooled. can i still use this on my b18b and block off the water coolant line to the turbo if it actually is water cooled?

TurboEH2

u can but i wouldnt, the coolant lines are there for a reason

PrecisionH23a

Actually it's there for more of an option, but I believe innovative recommends using the water cooled option to increase the longetivity of their product. You can simply block them off and run it, you will be fine.

TurboEH2

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it isnt there as an option. it is there as a cooling aid. if u dont use it u run the risks of burning up ur turbo. i reccomend the water cooling for a turbo. oil isnt really for cooling its more of a lubricator. so whats there to actually cool the turbo? cause turbos get hot.

PrecisionH23a

You can run it plugged up. I have done so on 3 or 4 set-ups and they are still boosting 9psi daily with about 10k miles on them.

I know it's there for a reason, but you can opt not to use them. As I sated before, innovative recommends to use them to increase the turbo's longetivity. Contact the turbo's manufacturer and ask them what they think. I believe a lot of guys running 14b turbo's plug the coolant intlet/outlet up.

Yes, I know how they work from an engineering stand-point and how they are supposed to increase spool-up times and increase engine longetivity. In my opinion water cooled turbo's are not necessary, it's just something else to worry about leaking.

the.hamburglar

wow thanks guys...any pics of how to run coolant to the turbo?

USDM 4G VTEC

i will run coolant to turbo to avoid oil cooking and cllooggin
will avoid the turbo for overheating and decreasing its life

runn it..
u can feed it form one of the lines off the IACV on the trotle body '
a dn run it back to the waterpump by the pipe on the back of block, wich has a nipple

kpt4321

The coolant is intended to increase the life of the turbo, especially in the world of non-enthusiasts and missed oil changes.

On a car owned by a guy like us, when the oil is changed frequently and we let the turbo cool donw, it will probably be fine without coolant lines.

You'll probably not run that turbo for 100k anyway, right?

SleepyEG

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it isnt there as an option. it is there as a cooling aid. if u dont use it u run the risks of burning up ur turbo. i reccomend the water cooling for a turbo. oil isnt really for cooling its more of a lubricator. so whats there to actually cool the turbo? cause turbos get hot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good job trying to sound smart..except the coolant isn't there to cool the turbo, it's there to cool the oil/bearings. Thanks for playing, come again

the.hamburglar

im pretty sure thats what he ment

Chillinit

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Good job trying to sound smart..except the coolant isn't there to cool the turbo, it's there to cool the oil/bearings. Thanks for playing, come again</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good job sounding like an *******.

kpt4321

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Good job sounding like an *******.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Eh, pipe down. You don't *need* coolant, especially not on a drag/street/autox car. End of story.

TurboEH2

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Good job trying to sound smart..except the coolant isn't there to cool the turbo, it's there to cool the oil/bearings. Thanks for playing, come again</TD></TR></TABLE>

wait wait wait. so ur telling me the bearnings arent a part of the turbo? wow ur so smart

wade

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damnit, look, schmeter, whatever it is, you can plug off the coolant port on the turbo, mine is and has been for 34k miles. what diff does it make if it does or doesnt have the ports if they are blocked off. same diff man, just the added option of running the coolant. so ur asying everyone here will burn there turbos up, because like 95% of the ppl here dont have the coolant setup. It is an option plus its made becuase most and all ORM turbo cars have them and when they upgrade turbos, they have the coolant ports ready on the new turbo rather then blocking their cars OEM turbo bearing coolant lines off.

TurboEH2

i never said they WOULD i said it could.

SOUNDEFFECTS

I blocked the coolant lines in my turbo...It doesn't need them. Just makes another project and potienally another leak

SleepyEG

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wait wait wait. so ur telling me the bearnings arent a part of the turbo? wow ur so smart </TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright fuckbag, then you might as well have said..."The coolant cools the car!" Since by your grouping standards, the turbo is just part of the car. I wasn't saying the "bearnings" weren't part of the turbo, I was pointing out that the coolant isn't there for the hot metal commonly known as a turbo, but for the oil/bearings inside.

TurboEH2

ok well u see what i was saying, and i see how u mistook what i said. its over with.

Btothe3rdDegree

anyone got pics of their coolant lines?

Tony the Tiger

The turbo can run without the coolant lines. You will have to let the car idle for 5-10 mins before you shut off the car mostly because oil doesn't move around like coolant when the engine is off. The coolant helps cool down the turbo greatly, and technically, you do not need to turbo-time with a water cooled turbo. Every factory/OEM turbochargers have coolant lines as well for longevity.

It is an OPTION to run coolant lines. All the coolant is doing is cool off the center of the turbo via water jackets around the bearings, etc...

If my turbo came with water lines, I will run them for sure. There are NO disadvantages in running coolant through the turbo.
Any lines done improperly -- whether oil, coolant, even air would leak. There are no potential coolant leaks if the connection is done properly.

rioninja

The real question here, is why wouldn't you hook up the lines?
Obviously not everyone is going to have their turbo for 100k+ like factory
turbocharged vehicles, buy why wouldn't you want to maximize your turbos
life by hooking up two measly lines? Like stated by tony, having a water cooled
turbo almost eliminates the need for a turbo timer on street cars. Another plus
is that the engine oil isnt exposed to as high of a heat. Shear and extreme heat
are major factors in oil breakdown.
Its not an extreme difference, but every bit helps. My current turbo is not water
cooled, but when deals come along you take them. When i buy my next turbo
it will be water cooled for sure.

Bottom line is if your lazy, and/or incompetent enough to not trust yourself to hook
up two leak free lines, then dont use the ports. THey arent absolutely required.
Otherwise hook them up.