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Boostless97Lude 01-06-2003 06:35 AM

using and alarm when you have a turbo timer...
 
does anyone know a way to make your alarm arm while the car is still running on the TT? just wondering, b/c otherwise i'll have to sit and wait for the car cut off before i can arm the alarm, which kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me. but anyways, i have a viper model 600 alarm, and if anyone know how to make it work, please le me know

b18bturbo 01-06-2003 06:47 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 
you need a 4 prong relay and wire it in that way. it simple todo that it tricks the turbo timer as if the car was off

Boostless97Lude 01-06-2003 07:39 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (b18bturbo)
 
does it trick the TT or the alarm..... b/c i need it to trick the alarm into thinking that the car is off so i can arm it while the TT is still counting down.

B18C4-T 01-06-2003 07:52 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 
My alarm doesn't arm for 30sec after I close the door, I just set my turbo timer to run for 30 sec. We wired the alarm into the acc power. All I need is to turn the key to radio to put it in valet. That way it will start counting down as soon as I turn the key all the way off.

I Like Boost 01-06-2003 08:12 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (b18bturbo)
 

you need a 4 prong relay and wire it in that way. it simple todo that it tricks the turbo timer as if the car was off
where can i get this and the instructions for it to work properly?

justinCO 01-06-2003 10:17 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (B18C4-T)
 

We wired the alarm into the acc power.
I've heard a lot of this in previous threads. What/Where exactly is an accessory power source? Will it show up as accessory in my Helms manual? And you are supposed to wire the alarm ignition wire into the accessory power right? I was not able to find what the ignition wire was on my alarm since it's factory Acura. But I am able to arm the alarm in passive mode (arms/locks 20 seconds after last door is closed). Whenver I use the turbo timer though the alarm doesn't arm/lock after the engine shuts off https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif

Justin


integra_gsr98 01-06-2003 11:11 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (justinCO)
 
One other thing for those who do not have an alarm or a turbo timer yet...

I've been using compustar alarm/starters for almost 3 years now and they are by far one of the best brands out there. Their new model has a built in Turbo Timer. I would definately recommend that if you are looking for a new install that you talk to your authorized compustar installer in your area and see what they have to say.

I believe there was an article on getting a turbo timer and an alarm to work on vtec.net or bseries.net a few years ago. I will see if I can find this later today.

rbf351 01-06-2003 11:27 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (b18bturbo)
 
i've tried to wire up the realy but i've had no luck with that

i have a viper 500 ESP

any help or wiring diagrams?

brcivic411 01-06-2003 11:48 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (rbf351)
 
You want to buy a SPDT relay (Single Pole Double Throw). It will allow you to trick either the alarm or the TT, whichever one you need.

If you need to trick the alarm, you can wire the relay so that when the relay receives a signal from the TT, it will cut the ignition signal to the alarm so that the alarm thinks the car is no longer running.

Do some research on the web about a SPDT relay and you should see how it works.

avividmemory 01-06-2003 01:31 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (brcivic411)
 
there used to be a diagram floating around here about the relay and wiring it to trick the car...so you can set the alarm while turbo timer is on, then when it runs out the alarm arms...

anyone still have that?

Lei Siew Long 01-06-2003 05:33 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (SpoolinLS)
 
here is a link of the tools, parts and wiring that is required to get it working that I wrote a two years ago on SHO and this guy has it on his site. noticed how detailed it is https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

http://www.auto-imports.com/how.php

Boostless97Lude 01-06-2003 05:45 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (boostedeg6)
 
damn.... if only i could find the damn directions that i got from my alarm i think i could handle that fairly easy

Boostless97Lude 01-08-2003 12:42 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 
boostedeg6: i rad the article, but the Gray wire mentioned that you wire into the relay. my gray wire on my TT goes to the e-brake, and in the article it says the brown wire is for the e-brake, well, my brown wire is the RPM signal.

ok, i understand what i need to do, i just need to clarify on what wire does what. here is what my wires are:
Red- 12v constant
Green- ignition
Blue- 12v accessory
Brown- RPM signal
Gray- e-brake
Black- ground

Mr.DC2TurBo 01-08-2003 01:11 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 
It depends on your alarm and if the brain is capable of doing it. I had to buy a new (viper) alarm just so I can arm it while the car was still running. I know for sure viper alarm and greddy turbo timer will work together https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Boostless97Lude 01-08-2003 01:16 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (LS-T2001)
 
those were the wires from my TT, i can get the correct wires for the alarm. i just needed to clarify what signal wires i needed to hack into from the TT

MachAF 01-08-2003 02:31 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (integra_gsr98)
 

One other thing for those who do not have an alarm or a turbo timer yet...

I've been using compustar alarm/starters for almost 3 years now and they are by far one of the best brands out there. Their new model has a built in Turbo Timer. I would definately recommend that if you are looking for a new install that you talk to your authorized compustar installer in your area and see what they have to say.

I believe there was an article on getting a turbo timer and an alarm to work on vtec.net or bseries.net a few years ago. I will see if I can find this later today.
I'm gonna have to disagree with compustar being the best alarm out there.

I'm to lazy to bring up Tekens old post about them. Basically he said it uses low quality components and its a POS.

Anyway. Can't go wrong with DEI.

Canuk_SiR 01-08-2003 02:41 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (machaf)
 
just get an alarm with a built-in turbo timer. I bought a pager alarm awhile back, and it has it all built in. TT, pager, remote start (not used for obvious reasons) and different beeps https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Boostless97Lude 01-08-2003 02:56 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Canuk_SiR)
 

just get an alarm with a built-in turbo timer. I bought a pager alarm awhile back, and it has it all built in. TT, pager, remote start (not used for obvious reasons) and different beeps https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif
yeah, um, that'd be all good if i didn't already have an alarm and a turbo timer

Lei Siew Long 01-08-2003 03:41 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 

boostedeg6: i rad the article, but the Gray wire mentioned that you wire into the relay. my gray wire on my TT goes to the e-brake, and in the article it says the brown wire is for the e-brake, well, my brown wire is the RPM signal.

ok, i understand what i need to do, i just need to clarify on what wire does what. here is what my wires are:
Red- 12v constant
Green- ignition
Blue- 12v accessory
Brown- RPM signal
Gray- e-brake
Black- ground
i'm not sure what turbo timer you have, but, the wiring instructions are for a greddy turbo timer and as stated an Alpine alarm.

Boostless97Lude 01-08-2003 03:51 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (boostedeg6)
 
well shiet...... i have an HKS TT that doesn't have a wire that does the same thing as the brown wire........so, what are the dimensions on the GReddy TT, the HKS fits perfectly into this little coin tray looking thing below my sunroof button, i guess if the GReddy TT would fit in the spot, i could sell the HKS and buy the GRedddy

rbf351 01-10-2003 06:59 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (Boosted97Lude)
 
i got mine to finally work last night

i have a viper alarm and greedy turbo timer

timer is hooked up normal

i took the ignition wire from the alarm and hook it to the accessory wire on the igniton switch, that make u able to turn the alarm on while the car is running

next problem is the shock sensor would go off cause of engine vibration

so i attached a relay that send power to the shock sensor when the timer shuts off

justinCO 01-10-2003 08:43 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (rbf351)
 
Ugh, I need to find a wiring schematic for the factory Acura alarm so I can find out which is the ignition wire...

Justin

TheIntegraGuy 01-10-2003 09:55 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (justinCO)
 

i got mine to finally work last night
i have a viper alarm and greedy turbo timer

timer is hooked up normal

i took the ignition wire from the alarm and hook it to the accessory wire on the igniton switch, that make u able to turn the alarm on while the car is running

next problem is the shock sensor would go off cause of engine vibration

so i attached a relay that send power to the shock sensor when the timer shuts off

That means that you don't have "engine kill" doesn't it?

rbf351 01-10-2003 10:03 AM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (MrKooLmE)
 
engine kill still works as soon as the turbo timer shuts off

EG6owner-T 01-18-2003 02:31 PM

Re: using and alarm when you have a turbo timer... (rbf351)
 

i got mine to finally work last night

i have a viper alarm and greedy turbo timer

timer is hooked up normal

i took the ignition wire from the alarm and hook it to the accessory wire on the igniton switch, that make u able to turn the alarm on while the car is running

next problem is the shock sensor would go off cause of engine vibration

so i attached a relay that send power to the shock sensor when the timer shuts off
so on the tt u hooked up where it suppose to be if you didnt have an alarm?
what color was the ignition wire from your alarm?

i like to know more about that relay for the shock sensor? is it an extra accessory or specific wire on the viper alarm? what relay? part #?
i have a 93 civic with the viper alarm tryin to install the hks tt, any help would be appreciated... Thanks.


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