Txdragon's D16Z6 project: I've just boarded the Z6 bandwagon..
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It's worth it if you're savvy enough to keep an eye on things and make changes as they are needed, which I believe you are.
Probably not a good idea for those "set it and forget it" types who rely on their tuner to do everything. Unless maybe the tuner sets them up with a flex fuel sensor and does tuning on multiple fuels to make sure the compensation levels are correct, AND they are not pushing the limits of their setup.
Probably not a good idea for those "set it and forget it" types who rely on their tuner to do everything. Unless maybe the tuner sets them up with a flex fuel sensor and does tuning on multiple fuels to make sure the compensation levels are correct, AND they are not pushing the limits of their setup.
Now as a flex option, Neptune does support this. I can switch maps based on fuel. We are moving into our new place before too long and I'm not sure what's available out there for E85 yet, so I may need to have it tuned on both. **shrug**
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I figured 9lb as it is heavier than the one on it now, which came in at 8. It was supposed to be 10, but I weighed it twice on 2 different scales and it came in at 8.3 and 8.5. Driveability hasn't been as harsh as I'd expected.
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A stock Z6 flywheel is 18lbs. I'd try to get back closer to that weight with the 11lb flywheel.
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Got a 95, so my shock tower is not pre-wired for VTEC. I'll have to hardwire directly to the ECU. The second pic details the connecting wires to A4 and D6. Secured with a dab of hot glue for a little more support. They are nice and snug with the cover installed. May not be the prettiest, but they ain't going anywhere. Lol!
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I did. The pins were not in my harness plugs. I pinned them then soldered and ran the wires. While it may LOOK like ***, I don't give a ****! It's functional... The whole car looks like *** but runs VERY well.
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Where the pins present on the ecu itself?
most re-pin the ecu harness to skip the soldering step...and skip repinning the shock tower. Unless you want it super clean, Just make your own mini harness directly to the solenoid.
live and learn I guess
not agreeing with such rude comments just putting the correct info out there
most re-pin the ecu harness to skip the soldering step...and skip repinning the shock tower. Unless you want it super clean, Just make your own mini harness directly to the solenoid.
live and learn I guess
not agreeing with such rude comments just putting the correct info out there
#208
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Where the pins present on the ecu itself?
most re-pin the ecu harness to skip the soldering step...and skip repinning the shock tower. Unless you want it super clean, Just make your own mini harness directly to the solenoid.
live and learn I guess
not agreeing with such rude comments just putting the correct info out there
most re-pin the ecu harness to skip the soldering step...and skip repinning the shock tower. Unless you want it super clean, Just make your own mini harness directly to the solenoid.
live and learn I guess
not agreeing with such rude comments just putting the correct info out there
Anywho.. I ran a wire so the pigtail could be connected and soldered and even used legit harness pins to work the shock tower connectors.That wire was done then ran through the firewall to the ecu. It's all tucked and stashed in it's natural habitat in the kick panel, under the carpet. So, aesthetics are really stock except under the hood. I may have **tried harder** to tuck the vtec wire to another portion of harness? ****'s sake, you can't even see the extension of the wire I added to the ecu while it's plugged in and the carpet peeled back. Lol!
Function>Form in my book. It's solid and works.
#209
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Yeah I could care less about what the inside of the ecu looks like. Repinning is just the correct way to do it. The way it was designed from the factory
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Well.. Dropped in the 59300, had some user install issues to iron out then finally got it right.. On the first AWESOME test drive, my timing belt managed to jump a couple teeth and I bent some valves. Sigh.. Stopped after the cylinder 1 leakdown revealed leaking through intake. Not sure if others are bent, not sure yet if any further damage done. I haven't removed the head yet. Sigh. New build parts haven't been ordered yet, but it was in the works. I'm hoping all I need to do is rebuild the head.. THAT I can do right now.
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Head coming off today. Crossing my fingers I haven't gouged any pistons.. I've tried to do some figuring on valve to piston clearance without the clay procedure and I just don't think I'm capable. Everything SHOULD be okay to run this cam but, I obviously have a very small window of error. The T-belt only slipped by 3 teeth and I've seen much worse on stock cam with no ill effect other than no start.
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Sucks to see this setback after how far you've come. But hopefully you'll be back on your feet soon. Any idea what caused the belt slippage?
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the cam seal was a little loose. It wasn't just purchased, but was new.. <3 months and not physically damaged in any way. On that drive, I noticed I lost a TON of oil through the cam seal area. My powers of deduction say this was my culprit. Oil-soaked belt and gears gave the proper recipe for disaster. Hind sight being 20/20, it may have been a brighter idea to put on a fresh seal. Sucks when big stuff like this arises from overlooking something that seems SOOOOO insignificant.
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the cam seal was a little loose. It wasn't just purchased, but was new.. <3 months and not physically damaged in any way. On that drive, I noticed I lost a TON of oil through the cam seal area. My powers of deduction say this was my culprit. Oil-soaked belt and gears gave the proper recipe for disaster. Hind sight being 20/20, it may have been a brighter idea to put on a fresh seal. Sucks when big stuff like this arises from overlooking something that seems SOOOOO insignificant.
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Just sucks watching people like boostedboiz throw really cheap and shitty parts at their cars all day long because they don't care if it breaks.
#219
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So the weather was finally nice enough today to get some exploratory surgery done. Turns out I blew the head gasket. Had coolant all in the #2 exhaust runner as well as on the plug. Odd that this happened. I say it's the typical Honda temper tantrum: get something done, then something else breaks.
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Well.. This was unexpected.. #1 and #3. Evidently I've found the limitations of NPR cast pistons..
It is clear where the intake valves made contact when the time jumped. I'm curious if that contributed to the San Andreas fault that developed in my piston? I see contact on all of em but the only pistons that cracked were 1 and 3. Both cracks look identical and parallel to the wrist pin. Sigh..
It is clear where the intake valves made contact when the time jumped. I'm curious if that contributed to the San Andreas fault that developed in my piston? I see contact on all of em but the only pistons that cracked were 1 and 3. Both cracks look identical and parallel to the wrist pin. Sigh..
#221
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oh wow...that's impressive (in its own way). MY first thought would be that it isn't just the contact, but the "frequency" that it may have contacted it at. As in just the contact alone would chip a piston/leave the indention...but it wouldn't split it. By frequency, I mean (for example) you can tap it at the right time, place, speed and cause a catastrophic reaction (ie the crack went through the weakest part of the piston and didn't begin near the contact spot). I'd be curious to see if the pistons are flat across the top edge to edge measuring across the piston IN to EX along with measuring how thin the surface of the piston is. Is there any scoring on the cyl wall?
#222
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oh wow...that's impressive (in its own way). MY first thought would be that it isn't just the contact, but the "frequency" that it may have contacted it at. As in just the contact alone would chip a piston/leave the indention...but it wouldn't split it. By frequency, I mean (for example) you can tap it at the right time, place, speed and cause a catastrophic reaction (ie the crack went through the weakest part of the piston and didn't begin near the contact spot). I'd be curious to see if the pistons are flat across the top edge to edge measuring across the piston IN to EX along with measuring how thin the surface of the piston is. Is there any scoring on the cyl wall?
looks like I may go with 75.5 or 76mm pistons after all. Lol
#223
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Wow this sucks man! Nothing worse than seeing this happen after so much hard work. .hopefully you will find any weak points or problems and permanently resolve them.
#225
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As Autoworks mentioned a bit ago, it seems the valve contact may have revealed a weak point in the pistons that might not have been prevalent had the event not happened. I.E. I had machined the valve reliefs before install, etc.. There are just some things we either can't foresee or just straight out overlook that lead to these events. It's all part of the process and I am a strong believer that failure leads to education, then success.