Stigmatic

I own a 1995 Accord LX that I am in the process of modifying. Now I've heard a lot of talk about the H22a engines and how they are indeed easily modifiable engines, but my question is, as far as bare performance and money is concerned would it be worth it to buy an H22a and turbo/boost it vs. adding some boost and a turbo to my current F22b? I don't race aside from the occasional street race, but I do want to add some kick to what I have now, and I'm working with about $700-$800 for the engine portion. I definitely want to break 200hp, and I would be very happy if I could get 250hp+ out of it. What would be the easiest, financially friendly way to do this?

Thank you

Stigmatic

Also this is a bit off topic from my original post, but is also a very much desired piece in my mod. Would it be possible to find a 6-speed manual transmission for my 1995 accord?

deucedeuceEK

My advise is to save your money and read up some more until your more familiar with things. On your current budget, you really can't do jack ****. Sorry!

eksessiv

Definitely going to need more than $700-$800

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Why?

AznBlueBoy

your 700-800 might be enough to get you some bolt ons.
Oh wait...you don't even have an h22 yet.....
Your budget allows you to pay for gas for a few months and thats about it.

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This is still up??

Stigmatic

yes i understand that the $700-$800 isn't enough for any real work. could someone please just answer my question? turbocharged F22b or H22a?

PhoenixCD5

turboing an h22 succsesfully will be like trying to lick pine sap off of a silverback gorilla's fist... f22s have stronger internals for boost. but for the budget get a h22 as cheap as possible and intake and exhaust it maybe a biger TB and unrerdrive pullies will get you to a good HP range..

Sordz

your best off going with nitrous, your going to spend your budget on a decent turbo alone.

h22-eg-hatch

iTrader: (1)

H22 ftw

U can boost 6 lbs safely on a h22 and make between 260-300 hp guaranteed.
F22 will require more like 15lbs to make the same power.

But I suggest saving somewhere around 2-3,000 before starting your build.
And remember a good tune is key to keeping any motor alive

Libertariat

What?

Where did you get this notion that h22's fall apart under boost?

simmons753

f22 will run really good on boost

Libertariat

As will 90% of Honda engines?

PhoenixCD5

as h22 eg hatch said an H22 will withstand about 6lbs of boost safely.. but thats pretty much the limit without sleeving.. wich is obviously above and beyond this guys budget..unlike f22s once an h22 cylider walls run thin theres no hope for rework no matter what the budget is.

solo227

just turbo the F22 for your goals...

But like everybody said... Its gonna cost alot more than $800

Libertariat

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/honda-techs-highest-horsepower-stock-block-thread-%2Aofficial%2A-2036623/

Where does this notion come from that you can't turbo an h22 on the stock block for more than necessary power?

sanman000719

i t comes from ignorance and many years of hearing people say they wont last lol

people will never learn for themselves thata good tune will yeild nice medium 500hp

they said a b16 stock block couldnt do it and it has
b18c i made 500 on with a stock block as well

i suggest talking to people with some posts under there names lol they might know what tey are talking about

Libertariat

That's not even a very good rule of thumb. I don't know nearly as much as my post count would imply. My "expertise," if you can call it that, comes from spending the last 7 years on Honda forums and reading other peoples experiences with products and part compatibility. But I would certainly take everything I read with a grain of salt and a quick google search.

My mechanical experience doesn't go much further than brakes, fluid changing, valve lash, and suspension components. Some metal fab here and there.

I don't have the tools or confidence to do a motor swap or wiring.

sanman000719

nope but 99% of the time you can get great advice from veterans bcause they have been around a long time, and have knowledge of getting things done.

so you just do alot of posting to up the count or what

Libertariat

A lot of consumer based advice based on my years of reading reviews on various products. Also a lot of opinion and budget advice based on browsing, shopping, and what little hands on experience i got from hanging out with a Honda grease monkey in Arizona.

He had a really nice b18b that made 450whp. I helped him find parts for various builds for customers cars. I helped him source parts for several k20 swaps and a few h2b swaps. We worked together breifly at another job and we were good aquaintences once he went on to work at a performance shop. Can't remember the name of the shop. it's in Mesa.

sanman000719

well you can ask people questions on here, and get great advice unfortunately there are also alot of people on here that think they know it all, and dont.

OP do you have a local shop to go and consult ???????????

Libertariat