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Old 12-29-2012, 12:42 PM
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Default Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Been looking at two in particular, the mini ram made by Go-Autoworks and the Quick4 made by Spoolin performance. Is one better than the other? Or is there another mini ram out there which would be better than both of these?

On the quick4 wastegate port is to side of manifold whereas on Go-Autoworks mini ram, its towards the front. My own logical thinking would be having port on front should provide better wastegate/boost control as exhaust gases are moving in this direction.

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No, no particular advantage as they are both on the central part of the exhaust collector,whether its to the side or the front, and use the same grade of steel to create the manifold.. You won't lose with either company
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Have people using either of these manifolds had issues with oil return to sump due to how low they position turbo?
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

I made a thread a while back about that some people posted some good info on it.
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by phaphon
I made a thread a while back about that some people posted some good info on it.
Any link to thread mate?
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/need-suggestions-how-run-oil-return-3077663/
I thought it had some pictures of the return line set up. I hope this helps anyways
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

The design itself causes drain issues, they place the turbo so low and so close to the block that you either need to use standard hose and push fittings or if you're using an fittings, run a complete circle/loop from turbo drain to oil pan
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by phaphon
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3077663
I thought it had some pictures of the return line set up. I hope this helps anyways
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The design itself causes drain issues, they place the turbo so low and so close to the block that you either need to use standard hose and push fittings or if you're using an fittings, run a complete circle/loop from turbo drain to oil pan
Should I just pay the bit extra and go for a Ram horn manifold which will position the turbo up higher? I've been told my spool time will be 500rpm later with the ram horn....
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I wished I went with a ram horn . but I will am willing to sell my mini ram set up . pm me if you want to talk .
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

What are your power goals? A ramhorn might be overkill....

And just because you have to work a bit harder to run a return line doesn't mean you need to swap manifolds.... plenty of people run mini rams without issue
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by wantboost
What are your power goals? A ramhorn might be overkill....

And just because you have to work a bit harder to run a return line doesn't mean you need to swap manifolds.... plenty of people run mini rams without issue
450whp. Going with the Silver surfer turbo on a b16...
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You'll be fine, the mini ram will support that power without issue, you'll also see better response vs a ramhorn. I would have the manifold and turbine housing coated for even more response, power, and efficiency
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The Mini Ram oil drain "issue" isnt much of an issue. We just do not suggest using AN fittings for the drain as they take up to much space. We use a 45 degree fitting off the turbo, 5/8 oil safe hose, to a straight barb fitting on the pan with a 1/2 weld bung mounted slightly lower on the pan to give a more desirable angle. This will work perfectly fine on both manifolds in the original question
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Autoworks do you guys have a link to the fittings that I will need ?
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by phaphon
Autoworks do you guys have a link to the fittings that I will need ?
I sent you a PM
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by Autoworks
The Mini Ram oil drain "issue" isnt much of an issue. We just do not suggest using AN fittings for the drain as they take up to much space. We use a 45 degree fitting off the turbo, 5/8 oil safe hose, to a straight barb fitting on the pan with a 1/2 weld bung mounted slightly lower on the pan to give a more desirable angle. This will work perfectly fine on both manifolds in the original question
i used a miniram for years getting up into the mid 400hp range. this is exactly what i did with the return line and i never had an issue
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by Autoworks
I sent you a PM
Can you pm me also
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by Boyle.R
Can you pm me also
We'll add the oil drain kit needed as a package to the online store tomorrow. I will send the link via PM
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by wantboost
run a complete circle/loop from turbo drain to oil pan
dont want to bust the thread ,,,but this info is interressting,,and found nothing on the web(pic) about that,,,,my friend use a small ram manifold and had this issue turbo is to low
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

I have had a mini-ram last year.
I had a local shop do the return line and it wasn't the best..... worked but didn't have any flex & would leak.

Some DSM guys told me to use pushlock hose/fittings... no leaks, slightly more flex & drain angle was improved.



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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

This is how my Mini ram oil return ended up...

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^ works
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@ rich777.
Hilarious badger.!!!!!
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Default Re: Turbo manifolds- Mini ram

Originally Posted by Autoworks
The Mini Ram oil drain "issue" isnt much of an issue. We just do not suggest using AN fittings for the drain as they take up to much space. We use a 45 degree fitting off the turbo, 5/8 oil safe hose, to a straight barb fitting on the pan with a 1/2 weld bung mounted slightly lower on the pan to give a more desirable angle. This will work perfectly fine on both manifolds in the original question
I ended up doing this exact same thing after some trial and error while clocking the turbo just a little. Its a very nice piece!!
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