broketuner-Sol_Si

I would like to get a turbo setup started soon and know a majority of the parts I'll use on the build. The only thing I'm confused with is the turbo. Here are my plans the engine(a JDM B16A) internals will stay stock(for now) I only plan on making 225 -250 HP till I build the block later on down the road but don't plan to make more than say 350-375 after it's fully built (sleeved, pistons, rods, everything balanced blueprinted and the crankshaft micropolished). It wil stay my daily driver, I will obviously be upgrading the fuel system and tuned with hondata, I will be using either a blox mani. or a short tubular mani(not sure which yet). Anyways what turbo should I go with? I'd like it to spool up quickly. I don't know if I can afford a BB turbo, but I do know they spool even quicker. I don't plan on increasing the displacement....but I may. So for comparable setups, what turbo are you guys running?

IHaveTurbos

We just dynoed our bone stock B16 in our Del Sol, and we made 312whp on 13psi. We are using a standard Garrett T3/TO4E 57 Trim .63a/r.

It was tuned with Neptune also, and was one of our Turbo Kits.

Edit: Here is the post on the Car with Pics https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1413480

Benjithx

I had a Turbonetics T3T04 .57 and made 300 at 14psi on my 83mm 9-1 B16.

It spooled almost to fast and was a ton of fun on the street.

KeyserSoze

t3/to4e 50 trim, .48 a/r if you want quicker spool. Or even a holset hx35 or hy35 (these can be found used for very reasonable prices from diesel shops and/or ebay). The hy35 will give you faster spool than the hx35. You don't need a ball bearing turbo, really. Also, you don't need to sleeve if all you want (even down the road) is 350-400hp. Stock sleeves have been proven to be fine @ those power levels. Forged internals, new oem bearings and balancing would be good things though. GL.

broketuner-Sol_Si

So how much do those diesel turbos run if you can find them(ebay didn't have either of those). And more importanly what kind of flanges do they use (T3, T25, etc.).

-For future reference please also include @ what RPMs you hit full boost and some specs such as, comp. ratio, sleeved/stock and any others that played a role in the builds. Thanks for the replies so far....looking like a T3/T04 is my best bet.

tallyturbo

garrett t3/to4e 60 trim. trust me it will put a huge smile on your face

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So how much do those diesel turbos run if you can find them(ebay didn't have either of those). And more importanly what kind of flanges do they use (T3, T25, etc.). </TD></TR></TABLE>

They will cost you $200-$300 used but in good condition or $100-$200 when they need a rebuild. And they use a standard t3 flange.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-For future reference please also include @ what RPMs you hit full boost and some specs such as, comp. ratio, sleeved/stock and any others that played a role in the builds. Thanks for the replies so far....looking like a T3/T04 is my best bet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you search you will find more than enough data on this topic. Stay with stock sleeves, a stock block will get you to 300hp no problem, I feel like a parrot sometimes. If you are going to build a block then forged rods and pistons should allow you to reach 400hp no problem (stick with 9:1 cr). Getting your block sleeved to make just 350-400hp is a waste. Get a victor x manifold instead of the blox. Remember early spool is NOT always the best thing. And the t3/to4E is the one you want, most likely the 50 trim.

broketuner-Sol_Si

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Get a victor x manifold instead of the blox. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't know edlebrock made/sold individual turbo manifolds for B series, I thought they only sold complete kits.

KeyserSoze

They r ~$300 new and ~$200-250 used. Best manifold for the price. If I didn't already have one I'd prolly get a full race manifold ($900).

broketuner-Sol_Si

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After searching I'm convinced that you are thinking of an INTAKE MANI. I even went to their site and didn't find it....either way I think I'm going to go with the LSD Motorsports short tubular mani.

What kind of A/Rs should I look for if I got a t3/T04 E 50 trim turbo or is there a better turbo(with a comparable price...can't afford 1100 for a BB ) Like I said before, I want good response, with a max goal of 350-375 HP

red cx

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What kind of A/Rs should I look for if I got a t3/T04 E 50 trim turbo or is there a better turbo(with a comparable price...can't afford 1100 for a BB ) Like I said before, I want good response, with a max goal of 350-375 HP</TD></TR></TABLE>

well you could get a bigger turbo like a t3/60-1 or somthing. It would supply plenty of power for you. As far as an AR a .63 would be good.

Tactic$

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KeyserSoze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the t3/to4E is the one you want, most likely the 50 trim.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same turbo i run on my otherwise stock b16. Very happy with it!

broketuner-Sol_Si

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Same turbo i run on my otherwise stock b16. Very happy with it! </TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you running as far as hp/tq, comp. ratio... when you hit full boost, not to be nosy or anything, I just like details.

chrisgottigsr

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I didn't know edlebrock made/sold individual turbo manifolds for B series, I thought they only sold complete kits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he's talking about a victor x intake manifold

broketuner-Sol_Si

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he's talking about a victor x intake manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I figured that, but not too sure why he brought that up.

TheShodan

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For that amount of HP, honestly, a new intake manifold isn't necessary. I have available a custom T3/T04E that will not require any shaving of the block, and have the same flow.

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I figured that, but not too sure why he brought that up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Because I saw that you were looking to get a im. And if you are set on getting one, you shouldn't bother with a blox or skunk2, you should just get a victor x for almost the same price, or just use a stocky im for free. GL.

broketuner-Sol_Si

The only thing I mentioned was
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will be using either a blox mani. or a short tubular mani(not sure which yet). </TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess I should have been more specific, and said turbo mani. oh well. Thanks for the suggestion anyways, but I already have an AEBS intake mani. ready and waiting .

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only thing I mentioned was

I guess I should have been more specific, and said turbo mani. oh well. Thanks for the suggestion anyways, but I already have an AEBS intake mani. ready and waiting . </TD></TR></TABLE>

My bad on the mix up.