Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad?
04-19-2004, 09:13 PM
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Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad?
i got my car tuned today and it put out about 265whp @ 10 psi. power. when we turned the boost up to 18lbs it was only making about 285whp because when its close to redline it would spike up to full boost. we looked at the graph and when boost kick in the power doesnt jump. the whole powerband look smooth when boost kicks in. we think its the drag manifold causing it not to hit full boost at around 5,000rpm becuz of the shitty wastegate location. anyone ever had this problem or think its something else causing it?
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04-19-2004, 10:33 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (jonnybravo)
lawrence @ dynospot tuned it, he said it was the manifold... just trying to get some suggestions on what people have to say about this
04-19-2004, 10:35 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
I also went to the dyno today and I have a similar problem with the drag manifold... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=838904
04-19-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (9psiTurboSI)
guys,
i just made 450 whp on a drag 3 manifold and tial wastegate.
it didnt creep at all on low boost all the way to high boost.....
i just made 450 whp on a drag 3 manifold and tial wastegate.
it didnt creep at all on low boost all the way to high boost.....
04-19-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (9psiTurboSI)
yeah my problem is somewhat similiar to yours... but i was running a mbc. we set it to around 19lbs and it didnt hit full boost till close to redline... it was at low boost (around 10-14) till like mayb 7k rpm and then all of a sudden the boost started to climb up fast, by that time it was reading like 20lbs but it wasnt enough time for the turbo to spool up. drag manifold = 
what manifold are you getting now?
what manifold are you getting now?
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04-19-2004, 11:54 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im on the same boat as u are.... lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know where going to need a new downpipe too!!!
You know where going to need a new downpipe too!!!
04-20-2004, 12:05 AM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (9psiTurboSI)
i tuned a lsvtec with a drag 3 manifold and tial 40mm @ 14.7 psi and made 341 whp. its not the best manifold out there but it shouldn't be holding you back like that.
04-20-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (SEFIxCivic)
well at least we gotta modify our down pipe... and i dont know why but the tuner said its the manifold because its reading off 1 runner and that the boost climbs slowly until its about 10lbs then shoots up fast and thats when its at a pretty high rpm and by that time its time to shift and the turbo couldnt spool up fast enough to really hit the high boost 19lbs
04-20-2004, 03:22 AM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
and the mbc is a turbonetics one and we never had any problems with those
04-20-2004, 03:42 AM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
could a long wastegate elbow cause this? the wastegate location is at #1 runner and my elbow extends past #4 runner and then its the wastegate, then theres a dump tube for it... can this cause it to do this? my turbo inlet is facing the driver side so i dont want the wastegate to dump on the same side
04-20-2004, 10:27 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lawrence @ dynospot tuned it, he said it was the manifold... just trying to get some suggestions on what people have to say about this</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I dunno...Lawrence tuned my car too and I have the same manifold with a stock motor and I made 285/225 at 9psi. I think you may have some other issues.
Well I dunno...Lawrence tuned my car too and I have the same manifold with a stock motor and I made 285/225 at 9psi. I think you may have some other issues.
04-21-2004, 04:01 AM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
it has to be something else besides your manifold. theres a guy on this board that made 293whp on a stock gsr on 10 psi (using uberdata) with a drag manifold.
04-21-2004, 08:55 PM
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Re: Tune my car today, have a slight problem. drag manifold = bad? (tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tRaCeBuStAbUsTeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of motor and what else you have on ur car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock GSR motor. I have a 2.5"-3" downpipe, 3" Thermal exhaust, 550 injectors, S100b Hondata, Tial wastegate, and that's about all that's different from yours...
Stock GSR motor. I have a 2.5"-3" downpipe, 3" Thermal exhaust, 550 injectors, S100b Hondata, Tial wastegate, and that's about all that's different from yours...
04-21-2004, 11:53 PM
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First, why don't you just try a different MBC? You're throwing the blame all over the place, and you might just need a new 50 dollar part.
There are quite a few out there that are better than the turbonetics ones.
There are quite a few out there that are better than the turbonetics ones.
04-22-2004, 06:51 PM
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7 psi made 285 WHP 238 torque. still running a little lean but thats only cuz we coudnt get the emanage to ****** load. lawrence tuns ALL my cars. and all my customers cars and has done a great job with all of em.
7 psi made 285 WHP 238 torque. still running a little lean but thats only cuz we coudnt get the emanage to ****** load. lawrence tuns ALL my cars. and all my customers cars and has done a great job with all of em.
04-22-2004, 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kpt4321 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First, why don't you just try a different MBC? You're throwing the blame all over the place, and you might just need a new 50 dollar part.
There are quite a few out there that are better than the turbonetics ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm even using the same MBC as him...
There are quite a few out there that are better than the turbonetics ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm even using the same MBC as him...
04-23-2004, 04:39 AM
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on the base run i made 265whp @ 10psi... after getting tuned its about the same at the same psi but it pulls more consistently now and it feels a lot better... i think im gonna change out the manifold and maybe the wastegate and the boost controller... what do you guys think? think it will solve my problem?