HondaCivicSiR1

ok so i got a Borg Warner to4b it has a 1.10 A/R T4 which is pretty big, is it a twin scroll.The compressor wheel measures 54mm or 2.115 inches for the Inducer and 2.675 inches for the Exducer. i would like to get some opinions or if anyone has one of these on there b series motor let me know what you think of it.here is what it looks like
https://mavweb.mnsu.edu/creare/images/019_19A.JPG

HondaCivicSiR1

wow 22 views and nothing to help?WTF

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i got a Borg Warner to4b it has a 1.10 A/R T4 which is pretty big, is it a twin scroll.The compressor wheel measures 54mm or 2.115 inches for the Inducer and 2.675 inches for the Exducer. i would like to get some opinions or if anyone has one of these on there b series motor let me know what you think of it.here is what it looks like
https://mavweb.mnsu.edu/creare/images/019_19A.JPG</TD></TR></TABLE>


you want help .. its more work to use it than its worth. and no one commented cuz theres probably 1 out of 600 guys that run a t04B turbo here

HondaCivicSiR1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


you want help .. its more work to use it than its worth. and no one commented cuz theres probably 1 out of 600 guys that run a t04B turbo here </TD></TR></TABLE>ok so everyone use's a to4e right? so i guess i will be the 2nd of 600 to do it then .why is it more work?i have never know a turbo project to be easy or cheap.

TheShodan

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That sounds like one of the original T4 John Deere applications that are used in some smaller tractors. That compressor and exhaust measurement is about 640-660cfmat 2PR or so. They use a t04b compressor cover, that's about all that it shares with many of the applications that are used universally. T04B compressor sides are used all the time, its that full combination that isn't used at all really. this turbo is about equivilent to about a Mitsubishi 20G or smaller. This is ok for a GS-R for lower boost use, but because of its larger volute for the T4 design, it's really not the best idea, especially when there are plenty of other "ready to use" designs out there, especially in the 1.10A/R.

*EDIT* I re-read his measurements, and adjusted my orginal post accordingly to his measurements.


Modified by TheShodan at 2:09 AM 5/21/2007


Modified by TheShodan at 2:10 AM 5/21/2007

HondaCivicSiR1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That sounds like one of the original T4 John Deere applications that are used in some larger tractors. That compressor and exhaust measurement is about 520cfm at 2PR or so. That's equivilent to about a 17C or smaller. This is ok for a GS-R for lower boost use, but because of its larger volute for the T4 design, it's really not the best idea, especially when there are plenty of other "ready to use" designs out there, especially in the 1.10A/R.</TD></TR></TABLE>what do you mean by lower boost 2-5 psi or 10-15 psi?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so everyone use's a to4e right? so i guess i will be the 2nd of 600 to do it then .why is it more work?i have never know a turbo project to be easy or cheap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

1. the shape and design of it isnt very A/C friendly
2. not many people have those turbos around for mock up or setups made for that particular turbo.
3. the spacing of it doesnt allow for a decent sized downpipe to be used
4. everyone uses t3t4's here ( the majority)

TheShodan

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean by lower boost 2-5 psi or 10-15 psi?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I mean at 8-10psi or so, but as Project DC2 stated in several areas, this is not a practical solution unless going for BIG power.

HondaCivicSiR1

so would it be possible to use a t3 exhaust housing?and i'm not worried about a/c or p/s this is going in my ef hatch and i don't plan on running any more then 12-15psi if possible

HiProfile

You can easily get away with a t3 housing, the stage 5 wheel is as big as a smaller t4 wheel, and you can get some big AR's if you want. You can also get a .78ar divided-housing from ATP if you really want good flow and fast spooling.

The way you'd use a T3 turbine isnt' all that pretty - basicly you'd only use the compressor cover, compressor wheel, and backplate to bolt to a T3 CHRA and turbine. You would be better off selling that one to a V8 guy and getting a t3/t04b or e thats already assembled and balanced.

HondaCivicSiR1

well i think i wll be getting a t3 exhaust housing

TheShodan

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i think i wll be getting a t3 exhaust housing </TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to make sure that the EXHAUST wheel is going to work with your T3 housing. It's not just a universal fit. Find out the measurements of your exhaust wheel to help determine which one you plan to use.

HondaCivicSiR1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicSiR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i got a Borg Warner to4b it has a 1.10 A/R T4 The compressor wheel measures 54mm or 2.115 inches for the Inducer and 2.675 inches for the Exducer. </TD></TR></TABLE>could i go off of this?

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