SAXON

idle at 500mmhg
11psi spring

i still get surge unless its above 10 psi, i really dont like how its working so would the 9psi spring work best for me or would it hurt anything?

viper_boy403

iTrader: (1)

Where is your vacuum source? Is it tee'd off of something or is it direct manifold vacuum?

da_dude

Same thing happen to mine. End up cutting the 11 lbs spring.It works fine now. If I was to do it over again I would gotten the smaller spring in it.

SAXON

ya i think their ratings arent quite right, so i think a 9 psi spring will be my next investment for it

vacuum is straight off the manifold with correct vacuum line

SAXON

i cant believe no one else has any comments, is this a common problem or what? i know Tial is part of this community and their feedback would be helpful

boostedcivicsir

i never had an issue other then the engine pulling hte valve open at idle, so i went tighter on the spring. as long as it is opening even a little its not really an issue.

if it werent opening at all i would worry.

hell 4 years with my buick although an automatic, over 25 psi, i never had a blow off valve. hell we never knew what they even were.

SAXON

i understand that, but having a $1,000 turbo go bad because of surge isnt something that i want to chance,

anything but wot shifting and it surges horribly

viper_boy403

iTrader: (1)

Just get the 9 psi spring. Running the wrong spring seems to be the main reason people have surge issues

SAXON

but according to their website i should be using the 11psi spring

oh well i guess i will get the 9 psi spring

TiAL

you are running 1/4" ID reinforced line...right?

jdm602

what you should be using is different than what works. hondas like a less stiff spring. ive always had to run lighter springs in my hondas. what cams your running also change how much vacuum its pulling. i would say run the 9 psi spring and it should be kosher.

kte324

iTrader: (2)

I am on a 11psi spring and it almost seems like that thing doesn't move when boost is under 5-7psi. I think I will be getting 9psi spring. According to the vacuum charts the 11psi spring is right for me.

HamiltonRex

same thing is happening to a guy on the dsmtuners, he had to get a lighter spring.

SAXON

ya, i mean ive had plenty of tial's and most of them were with cammed motors so i had to run the 9 psi spring anyways

anyone know where the cheapest place is to get one?

SiR90hb

I'm having the same problem....run the un-painted spring (11psi)
Cutting 1 row would help you think ??

jdm602

yea itll prolly work fine. i hade the 11 psi spring and i just cut mine. just dont cut it too much...

boostedb20z

iTrader: (1)

it really doesnt matter (if you cut to much) cuz when u build boost it puts the same psi on both sides of the valve boost in the intercooler piping and boost in the vac line so really just cut them down unless u want to spend 30$on one lol

Sprockets

iTrader: (6)

I guess you missed his post. He asked you a question.

kte324

iTrader: (2)

I want to cut mine, but I don't know how much to cut.

SAXON

and i guess you missed the fact that he didnt reply untill after that post... and then i guess you missed the fact that i replied to his question already

Sprockets

iTrader: (6)

Ah, yes! Of course he should be on here to do your bidding 24/7. I didn't miss anything, so turn that hammer around, slick. You didn't answer his question. Wash the sand out of your vag and relax.

SAXON

i made it bold and underlined





act like im some newb or something

the fact is that on a honda motor no way the 11psi spring works with low boost and i guess this post will possibly help someone

E85B18

I agree, I had the 11psi spring and it didnt move till 7psi or so. Tial has great customer service. Shoot them a PM and they may trade you springs for free.

Sprockets

iTrader: (6)

Nice try, lol. You edited that post exactly one minute after you responded to me the first time. I saw it earlier. You're too predictable.

...and your latest edit with bold and underline

I guess you didn't know that information is posted, huh?

I've never called someone a "newb" in my life. I was just trying to point out that you were asking for his help, then completely ignored him when he tried. Even if you didn't edit your post, your pre-answer to his future question still doesn't answer the question. Pre-answering "correct vacuum line" is not the answer.

Try not to be a dick.

SAXON

and i guess in the end, none of what you say really matters, since the fact is i have the proper diameter vacuum line going directly into the manifold for vacuum and it still surges

going to be ordering the 9 psi spring this afternoon and see if it fixes the problem