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Old 11-08-2006, 06:00 PM
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Default thermostat opens idle. not under load.

Why the expletive is this hapening, if i let my car idle in my shop the thermostat opens fine.

but if i drive it and put it under load the thermostat will not open.

tested thermostat.
new head.
new headgasket.
bled system 8000 times.

i really need help here guys cause this is driving me ******* insane, ive been trying to solve this problem for 3 weeks with no luck.

should i just drill a hole in the side of my thermostat and say fu.ckit?


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Old 11-09-2006, 07:58 AM
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anyone.
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How do you know that the thermostat is not opening "under load"? Do you have a little camera in there?
Old 11-09-2006, 04:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by locash &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you know that the thermostat is not opening "under load"? Do you have a little camera in there?</TD></TR></TABLE>


simple. my gauge goes way up. i get out of my car and grab my bottom hose and its cold.

can i get another witty response? cause im not in the mood
Old 11-09-2006, 06:43 PM
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Ive had Issues with the Cheap thermostats from Autozone, Advanced, Pep boys.. all those part stores ive had issues with it. i got a OEM honda one and it worked like a charm. Friend has a Mugen one and it is just as good. just more expensive
Old 11-09-2006, 07:06 PM
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i tested it out of the car also, worked great..

i dont think its an issue with the thermostat.
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Last time you had a coolant flush? how do the bearings sound in the waterpump? cooling system is very short so it shouldnt hard to diagnose.
Old 11-09-2006, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: (blindingxenon)

just a thought...

i had my thermostat installed backwords, and the seal wasn't on fully... gave me a funky temp reading until i fixed it
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lol ive tried to install one backwards and it wouldnt go at all. so i dont know how you installed yours backwards
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its installed correctly.

with the pin up also.

nothing is blocked, cause when i idle it to warm it opens and the car is able to drive.
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This sounds like your waterpump blades are shot...No circulation will cause that lower hose to be cold just like your describing...
How old is the waterpump?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This sounds like your waterpump blades are shot...No circulation will cause that lower hose to be cold just like your describing...
How old is the waterpump?
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it seems to be circulating fine, my heater works great and if i pull a hose at idle its pumping good.

also i sed that if i let it idle, thermo opens and then i can drive it anywhere i want. but if i take it on the road cold. it will not open.

i am gonna put in another thermostat today and see what happens.
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imma pull the water pump out as a last resort.

the OEM thermostat worked a bit better but it did the same thing irractically.
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Check the waterpump man. Im 99.9% sure its your problem.
Old 11-17-2006, 01:27 PM
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i ended up running straight water in my system for 6 months, heres what hapened:

the fins on the water pump got little dimples of rust on them, and i believe this was causing cavitation of the water pump at higher RPM/temperature.

i replaced it all and finally i replaced my water pump and it solved the problem.

moral of the story, always run a little bit of antifreeze in the rad to keep that **** from rusting.


THE END!
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