5thgen

I will either be going straight ls route......or possibly ls/vtec (stock bore). Was just wondering if anyone had experience with response of this type of setup.

sc61 w/ t4 .58 turbine .60 compressor

thanks in advance

Jared

what are your power goals?

5thgen

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450-500 whp

I basically have an opportunity to buy one locally.....wondering if it would be worth it.

Jared

For that hp stick with the t3 hot side.

twkdCD595

considering your going stock bore 1.8 and shooting for those power levels, I think the t4 hot side is a little overkill.

too bad it is not a t3 housing...

mjturboshop_net

yes that t4 turbine housing is going to be to big for your engine to spool up. I would recomend a t3 .48 ar housing with a stage 3 wheel.
You Can use that T4 housing with the help of a nitrous system to help you spool up that turbo.

StylishDOHC

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You Can use that T4 housing with the help of a nitrous system to help you spool up that turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a .48 t3 housing for 400-500hp?....stop giving advice.

mjturboshop_net

well he said he wanted to go the ls or ls/vtec (stock bore) route so i was giving an advice to that, cause you and i know that there is no way to get that kind of power with a stock ls or ls/vtec and also suppose he intalls that big turbo what is he going to do? get on the freeway and wait till he get's to almost 6000 rpm's to start spooling that turbo.

ndogg

get a t3 hotside. you can get a fat deal from lightning motorsports on here.

StylishDOHC

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I'm don't disagree that a T3 hybrid is a good choice, but for a 400-500 whp Honda, a .48 A/R housing will be a huge restriction past 7krpm..a .63 (or even an .81 with VTEC head) will be a far better choice and will take less boost to make the same power.

Dunc

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Riiiiight. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1478127

OBRJosh

I ran a T4 To4e .58ar on my stock b16 and it spooled decent got full spool at 5600 it wasnt too bad

poop II

It will probably be a bit laggy. You could get a .50 t4 housing if you're not satisfied though. What wheel, the o-trim or p?
I have a .58 tang undiv o-trim on a mild 1915cc engine and spool is quite manageable in my view. However, I ca'nt compare as us acvw guys can get away with a bigger turbine in comparison to the compressor side. For reference, a lot of vr6 people like to use the .58 p for mild-moderate setups.

Dee

T3 AR.63 or .82 will be a much better choice than a T4 AR.58. The AR .58 will be very peaky and laggy for a stock bore LS/VTEC. The T3 housings will make more usable horsepower and spool faster but the AR .82 will lag more than the .63.

VR6's build boost faster on the lowend because it's undersquare design (82mm Bore × 90.30mm Stroke). I have witnessed an SR20DET (86mm Bore x86mm Stroke) with an AR.60 60trim T4/T4 AR.58 O-trim on-center housing that ran like poopy until it hit 5K rpm. After that it would hit the 7500rpm redline with a quickness.

Reason to run the T4 AR.58 housing on that setup:
- Just for ***** and giggles
- You do not have access to T3 housings because of fundage ..... I have a couple somewhere
- Just for giggles and *****
- You want to run 35psi on pump pas and a 100shot of NOS at launch
- You like to giggle when you ****
- You have a T4 mani and do not want to change the flange (just re-drill the housing if there is enough material)

I think I have an O-trim HKS T4 AR.50 housing in my snail collection. I'll check it and get back with you later........ tomorrow MY TIME 11/2

EDIT: If you want the AR.50 housing I'll give to you.......... if I find it

g2turbo

I cant tell you how it would work But I have a GT35E/t4 (.68 hotside) that Im gonna be using on my 81mm gsr motor. Laggy or not its what Im gonna use. Hopefully it can get me to around 600 whp.

Dee

I guess I already gave the AR.50 housing to a friend because it was nowhere to be found when I went through my extra parts. I did find my oddball T4 N-trim AR.32 housing

Turbo O

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You Can use that T4 housing with the help of a nitrous system to help you spool up that turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you got to excuse these guys from MJ turbo shop, they are complete idiots. they think that they know alot when its actually the oppesite. they are some DSM **** so they TRY to use their DSM knowledge of Hondas!! well buddy, sorry to say but it just doesnt work that way.

Like my man, StylishDOHC said we in the honda community like to use BIGGER turbos so that we can make a lot more power with a lot less boost. But these small turbo DSM'ers wouldn't know that. After all this comment above is coming from the same people that laughed about D16 being able to spool a T70. well you ***, its been done. next time atleast do a search on here before you post some MORE misleading information.

P.S. And to think that these people offer tunning services for HONDAS!!~ SCARY