the.hamburglar

hey guys, whats your oppinions on a garret T3 super 60 on a stock b18b? specs: .48 a/r hotside and to4b .60 on the cool side 57 trim. what kinda power will this make and have any of you ever tried it? im hoping for ~275whp @12psi uberdata.

Jockobo

we made 310whp on a stock lsvtec at 15 psi...i think itll be perfect for a ls at that power goal...the lsvtec it held 300whp from 5000 to redline...

dornon13

wont happen at 12 psi i dont think....ive got it on my d16y8 and hit 187whp at 8psi..i think it would be a good choice though...it will max out around 300 or so...i get 8psi at 3500rpm dunno if that tells anything about the spool time you might get id imagine it would be slightly faster spooling for you.. well i guess its good for a bit more than 300 i wasnt sure of the max on it *shrug*

Na-Spirit

im useing that exact size on my b18a...reaches 14 psi quick on my stockness, fast and quick spool...perfect size i think.

the.hamburglar

k this might sound stupid but what the difference between a t3/t4 .48/.60a/r 57 trim and a straight T3 .48/.60a/r 57 trim?

the.hamburglar

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your boosting 14 psi on a stock block? how large are your injectors and cant the map sensor only handle 13psi?

blackeg

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ok i coulda sworn that you cant get a super 60 in a trim. the wheel trim is the super 60. someone should doublecheck the maps on http://www.turbocalculator.com

the t3/t4 basically has the spool time of a t3 and can flow as much as a t4(very basic explaination). if you are doing this on a stock ls, the super 60 will be very responsive. the t3/t4 would be a little more laggy but make more power per psi and have more potential. i recommend the 50 or 57 trims if you go t3t4( i have a 57 trim t3/t4 for my ls). honestly, i think the best for street would be the 50 trim with a .48 exhaust a/r for quicker spool to help offset the long geared ls tranny

Na-Spirit

im useing 450cc injectors with turboedit with a 1bar spring....gapped my plugs to .028 and shes good . although dont do this, im a idiot....that and im addicted to the power so yep.

AccidentproWn

i was under the impression a "super 60" was a 60 trim hence the number 60 in the name.

0project dc2

iTrader: (1)

9 psi my other car made 216 WHP

same set up but antoher motor/car makes 10 psi and 200 WHP


at 15 psi itll make 260 WHP.

96-EJ6 B18C

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your boosting 14 psi on a stock block? how large are your injectors and cant the map sensor only handle 13psi?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, the stock MAP only reads up to 11.75 psi...but with uberdata it will carry the final fuel value for higher boost...that means that you can run more than 11.75 psi, but you don't get any fuel or timing correction for the extra boost...so if you tune it rich at 11.75 psi, it will lean itself out with the extra boost, this is NOT the right way to do it, but it does work. I ran 14.7 psi for a while with my super 60 on my stock internal D with no issues. It is a lot of boost for stock internals, but with a conserivative tune it should survive for a while.

As for the super 60 being able to make 275 wheel, I seriously doubt that. If it is a "Super 60 T3" it only flows like 4 cfm more then a regular .60 trim T3. If your saying that it has a .57 trim compressor, then it's not a Super 60 because that is what the 60 means (.60 Trim). If the turbo is a .57 Trim T3/T04 with a .60 a/r compressor housing (which is what your trying to say I think) then you'll be much closer to your goal.

the.hamburglar

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Yeah, the stock MAP only reads up to 11.75 psi...but with uberdata it will carry the final fuel value for higher boost...that means that you can run more than 11.75 psi, but you don't get any fuel or timing correction for the extra boost...so if you tune it rich at 11.75 psi, it will lean itself out with the extra boost, this is NOT the right way to do it, but it does work. I ran 14.7 psi for a while with my super 60 on my stock internal D with no issues. It is a lot of boost for stock internals, but with a conserivative tune it should survive for a while.

As for the super 60 being able to make 275 wheel, I seriously doubt that. If it is a "Super 60 T3" it only flows like 4 cfm more then a regular .60 trim T3. If your saying that it has a .57 trim compressor, then it's not a Super 60 because that is what the 60 means (.60 Trim). If the turbo is a .57 Trim T3/T04 with a .60 a/r compressor housing (which is what your trying to say I think) then you'll be much closer to your goal. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, now i know what you mean. i was confused. i think ill try and go with the T3 super 60 off ebay or something where i can get it for like 300 bucks. then if its not good enough then i will get a larger one.

thanks guys

adseguy

I know I'm being picky, but 96-EJ6 B18C the trim number is not a decimal only the A/R is. so it's a 57trim and .60turbine side A/R for example Info is true though

96-EJ6 B18C

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You sir, get a cookie

Good catch on my decimal placement, thanks.