EK FLY

I got a hold of one these badboys t3/gt40 63 trim , I'am planing on running it on a stock gsr motor no internal work, I will be going build the following summer , and I will like to make the turbo a straight gt35r since it uses the gt35 compressor , will that be possible , what parts will I need and where would I get them




Modified by EK FLY at 4:43 PM 11/23/2007

Schister66

You wont make it a straight GT35r no matter what you do...you can't change the wheels off the CHRA on a BB cartridge. Also, that turbo is going to be absolutely horrendous on a stock internal GSR.

Also, IIRC the Blowzilla is more like the Precision SC6152e with a different exhaust wheel....

EK FLY

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You wont make it a straight GT35r no matter what you do...you can't change the wheels off the CHRA on a BB cartridge. Also, that turbo is going to be absolutely horrendous on a stock internal GSR.

Also, IIRC the Blowzilla is more like the Precision SC6152e with a different exhaust wheel....</TD></TR></TABLE>

how bad ? u talking about spool time ?

Schister66

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how bad ? u talking about spool time ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well considering that turbo uses the 65lb/min compressor wheel, its going to have a good amount of lag. Its not going to be a quick spooler, but if you're ok with that...It should make good power, but you're only going to be able to run 8-10psi on it at most. I dont think its a good fit for your stock internal GSR, but its your call in the end

EK FLY

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well considering that turbo uses the 65lb/min compressor wheel, its going to have a good amount of lag. Its not going to be a quick spooler, but if you're ok with that...It should make good power, but you're only going to be able to run 8-10psi on it at most. I dont think its a good fit for your stock internal GSR, but its your call in the end</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i was thinking on doing 13 on low and 20 , my last turbo was a t3/t04e with a .48 trim . now I might be going with rods and pistons

Schister66

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well i was thinking on doing 13 on low and 20 hig </TD></TR></TABLE>

good luck w/ that on a stock block

0morgan@synapse motorsport

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well i was thinking on doing 13 on low and 20 , my last turbo was a t3/t04e with a .48 trim . now I might be going with rods and pistons </TD></TR></TABLE>

so how much power do you think 20psi would net you with a blowzilla? cuz it would be in the ballpark of 425-450whp. seems like you are focused on psi when you should be focused on horsepower. the blowzilla has a gt35r compressor wheel and thats where the similarities end. you cant turn it into a 35r as schister said.

tony1

I wonder how many of those "GT40"'s they've sold by people thinking they were getting the real GT40. Kinda bullshit naming that turbo a GT40. lol

TheShodan

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so how much power do you think 20psi would net you with a blowzilla?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If he's using the Stage III wheel of the blowzilla, it would gain initial pressure rather quickly for its size, about 3300rpms or so. But at over 28psi we netted only about 465whp. The turbocharger ran out up top. This was on a sleeved GS-R stock stroke, 84mm bore. It was nice, but the customer blew the motor standing on it, and doing what we asked him not to do, which was not to turn the boost up any higher, nor stand on 5th gear for over 50 seconds. BLAMMO!!

Check to see which exhaust wheel that you have on the blowzilla. For your purpose, its a little big, but still usable; to a point. On a stock internalled motor, nah...

Schister66

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder how many of those "GT40"'s they've sold by people thinking they were getting the real GT40. Kinda bullshit naming that turbo a GT40. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree...as far as i could see, that turbo shares no characteristics with the GT40. It is, as the OP stated, more similar to the GT35. It uses the same compressor apparently and as i stated, is more similar to a Precision SC6152e (IIRC of course )

tokesGTR

How'd you only manage 465 WHP at 28 psi if turbodsohc (RIP) on here did 500 WHP on a d-series at 30 psi with the small turbine?

ELSpool

I run the FR version which i think is the same thing, just named different, T3/T61, I have the stage 3 exhaust wheel as did turbodcx (Brian RIP). It spools decent on my little D16, on a 1.8L, it would be a great little turbo. I made 400whp with it at 25 psi on a d16y8.

EK FLY

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well I didnt buy bc of the name , I buy bc I wanted to go bigger

TheShodan

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Its really a matter of semantics. either way, it is well underpowered for its boost, and not the best match.. One dyno may not match the other in terms of reading..

I agree. Naming it a GT40 is rather "interesting" to say the least. Perhaps they simply thought it the best way to describe the compressor wheel they decided to use.

tokesGTR

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Its really a matter of semantics. either way, it is well underpowered for its boost, and not the best match.. One dyno may not match the other in terms of reading..

I agree. Naming it a GT40 is rather "interesting" to say the least. Perhaps they simply thought it the best way to describe the compressor wheel they decided to use.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not underpowered if you just had a crappy setup going on there.

He did 500 WHP at 30 pounds of boost, D16Y8 at mega low (7.5:1) compression with a drag LOG manifold. If a B-series only did 465 at 28 psi it isn't about semantics, it's about something being wrong or broken on that car.

GraphiteAccord

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It's not underpowered if you just had a crappy setup going on there.

He did 500 WHP at 30 pounds of boost, D16Y8 at mega low (7.5:1) compression with a drag LOG manifold. If a B-series only did 465 at 28 psi it isn't about semantics, it's about something being wrong or broken on that car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or perhaps someone was doing a very conservative tune, and didn't want to run that aggressive of an ignition or fuel curve.

Or even better...maybe elevation has something to do with it?

turbodano

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It's not underpowered if you just had a crappy setup going on there.

He did 500 WHP at 30 pounds of boost, D16Y8 at mega low (7.5:1) compression with a drag LOG manifold. If a B-series only did 465 at 28 psi it isn't about semantics, it's about something being wrong or broken on that car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget the difference from dyno to dyno 465 is not far from 500 and i could see the difference being between the dynos.

EK FLY

#well this topic is going somewhere else , back on topic , what about if I find a GT35 wich has some chips/damage wheel or something like that can I merge my turbo with that gt35 to

0morgan@synapse motorsport

you cant rebuild the ball bearing GT series turbos. they only have a CHRA replacement program. what you are proposing isnt really worth the time and money, if you want a 35r sell what you have an buy a 35r.

Schister66

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x2

TheShodan

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Don't forget the difference from dyno to dyno 465 is not far from 500 and i could see the difference being between the dynos.

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Exactly.