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Old 02-06-2005, 08:39 AM
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hello everybody

after a long struggle i decided to sell my tiny garrett t15 and go with a T3.

but now i think i have clearance issue with the turbo/block . i didnt test fit that setup yet but i was wondering what you think.

this is my turbo/manifold setup



could i keep the a/c?(slim fan is no problam)


best regards moshik galimidi
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flip the turbo around, so the internal wastegate is towards the block, if it still hits, lose the internal wastegate and go external wastegate setup
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oxSLEEPERxo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">flip the turbo around, so the internal wastegate is towards the block, if it still hits, lose the internal wastegate and go external wastegate setup</TD></TR></TABLE>

if i'll flip the turbo there no way that i could keep the A/C. the turbo compressor will sit where the a/c compresor is now.




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Then you may need a new mani.
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u might have to cut the block
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by u2civic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u might have to cut the block</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha...that was a joke right?
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Grinding the block is fairly common.

As a last resort (and I do mean last), you can buy a D series head flange and longer head studs. The flange will act as a 3/8" spacer and effectively push everything away from the block by that much. You'll 2 exhaust manifold gaskets and longer studs.

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either you cut the webbing on the block or get a new manifold
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Wouldnt it be easier to just buy a different manifold to help with the bigger turbo? BTW, what mani is that?
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Looks like a D series HF manifold to me.

The spacer thing has been done before...there was a guy who bought a flange off of me (I don't sell them any more) in the UK that did that on 2 engines with good results.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sonny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


The spacer thing has been done before

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what size of spacer (flange) do you think i'm gonna need to get the job done?

also... how do i remove my manifold studs? clockwise vise grip?


i'm too affraid to cut the block. and i'm not even sure that will help.

can somone please post a side pictue of a D block and head?
Old 02-06-2005, 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oxSLEEPERxo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it still hits, lose the internal wastegate and go external wastegate setup</TD></TR></TABLE>

AND why should i do that? i can allways make a new brakcet for the WG.
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Default Re: T3 clearance issues(gurus please) (RACEPAK)

Have you tried flipping the turbo around, yet?
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he hasnt even test fit it way it is!
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Youre not really cutting the block man, its just webbing bars that stick out and cause us clearance problems, theres MANY people that had to trim/cut them for clearance

Flip the turbo and go external wastegate, but good luck welding on cast
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flipped:


as you see i have no cleranse problames with the stock WG.
but i want to keep my a/c.
so if the compressor side of the turbo will be on passenger side i could keep my a/c
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Default Re: T3 clearance issues(gurus please) (RACEPAK)

Flip it back to the first way. You may have to cut/shave some webbing off but thats all and it's common. I had to cut an angle in one webbing to fit my turbo on my 2000 GSR. I would have flipped mine around, but I wanted to use an intake filter for the compressor and If it was flipped the AC would be in my way, so If you wanna keep AC, I say put it back to the 1st way you had it. GOOD LUCK and for pics!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
as you see i have no cleranse problames with the stock WG.
but i want to keep my a/c.

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what are you talking about?! Are you ASSuming the engine is a cube with no variation/brackets/protrusions on it? How can you say that you have no clearance problems with the compressor on the drivers side without fitting it? Drawing a red line from the manifold straight down doesn't cut it. Put it on an engine and stop speculating, your project will go much smoother if you actually use a car. good luck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what are you talking about?! Are you ASSuming the engine is a cube with no variation/brackets/protrusions on it? How can you say that you have no clearance problems with the compressor on the drivers side without fitting it? Drawing a red line from the manifold straight down doesn't cut it. Put it on an engine and stop speculating, your project will go much smoother if you actually use a car. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanx
i'm not ASSuming... i can visulise it if i put the turbo and manifold on top of my stock manifold.
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visual doesnt work though man, clearances are always tight and it might work just fine or it might be a total block hack when youre done

Only takes an hours to take off your header on your car and put this one in place
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how bout you save us all the trouble as just go ******* fit it to your block. jesus christ, is it that hard? Belive it or not it will answer all of your questions.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i'm not ASSuming..</TD></TR></TABLE>

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you can call me a ***** but i can't open the manifold dp bolts with a spanner.

any way.... tomorow i'll go to release the bolts in the shop. to make a test fit and maby a adapter.
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I have a suggestion... weld to the Manifold a T3 turbo flange at a 45degree angle..
The turbo will be angled in relation to the block..oviously the Compressor section being the farthest from the block

SOmething like this..

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Who is posing as me? I didn't write that.


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