civichbcx

If I put a T25 ball bearing turbo kit on my stock B16 motor what kind of power can I expect to see and during what RPM range??

-Lets say...at 8psi
-front mount intercooler
-2.5 exhaust piping
-engine management
-FPR
-2.25 or 2.5 charge piping
-internal wastegate (I think most T25 are)
-tuning
-and what ever else it takes to make a turbo run efficiently.

I am not going for 1/4 mile times, ...I just want a little more power in the low end (2000-5000 rpm range). Would this be a good application for road racing??
What would make this a bad set up for a daily driver/weekend racer?

Soccerking3000

how about you go dyno it, and the t25 will run out of juice at 8k probably at 10psi or so you will see it drop

civichbcx

How about you shut the F**k up kid. I already know it's not going to carry pass 6k, I want power at the low end. If the T25 starts to drop off at 8k that's great, cause my redline is only until 8200 anyway. I'm looking for advice, not a smart *** remark. Who ever said I wanted to go 10psi anyway?! You make this forum look bad for the rest of us....why don't you do all of us a favor and cancel your membership.


Modified by civichbcx at 12:58 PM 11/28/2005


Modified by civichbcx at 1:03 PM 11/28/2005

Soccerking3000

does honda-tech look like a dyno? i dont think so there are way to many variables to give you an accurate range of what it can be, and i bet you'll have boost creep issues with a 2.5inch downpipe on the b16, making it gor from 8 psi to 10. I make the forum look bad? i told you what you wanted to know, you have your pantys in a bunch over "how about you go dyno it"? grow the expletive up god damn.

civichbcx

LOL! You reply like a kid who just got lectured. FYI there are plenty of people who get positive answers with questions like this all the time. You just want to be an dick about it. You were not giving advice, you were being a punk. About the boost creep, you're just speculating because you thought I wanted to run big boost. Some advice for you: Stop thinking "Fast and Furious".

Soccerking3000

no i wasnt speculating, quite a few small turbos with internal wastegates will have boost creep with larger downpipes. i gave you an answer sry if you got butt hurt cause it wasnt as chipper as you would have liked. And i have no idea where the fast and the furious comment came from, it is completely irrelevant. You just dont want to run more boost or get a larger turbo cause you cant afford it, its cool i understand.

civichbcx

I don't want a bigger turbo cause bigger turbos mean more turbo lag. I want low end power, which means a T25 would be the logical choice for my application (reread my 1st post). Why do you keep talking like I want to run 10's? See, I told you, more speculating:

"You just dont want to run more boost or get a larger turbo cause you cant afford it"

Sorry my mom doesn't buy me my stuff, I work for it. Looks like your the one who needs to grow up.

Soccerking3000

i work full time and go to college full time, mommy doesnt pay for anything, my scholarship does thanks though

civichbcx

For someone who is under 21......I seriously doubt that. We all know how it is in college, you don't have to keep it a secret.

Scholarship = Smart *** (Looks like I was right! Yes! )

Soccerking3000

well you can think what you want thats fine, but back to your original post, since i dont feel like argueing anymore, i would thing if the b16 is stock you will make around 170ft-lbs or torque and something like 230-245 whp. The turbo might have issues in the upper rpm range though even at 8 psi, what boost controller are you using?

stockredej1

Well if you would pull your head out of your *** you would see he is trying to answer your question. BTW a B16 will choke a t25, but its your car put it on and see how YOU like it.

civichbcx

I'm sorry, I didn't know we were cool now.

Probably manual boost controller, until I can upgrade.

What are your thoughts.

Soccerking3000

uhh i was trying to be nice there was no need for that. But if you want to be an *** so be it i cant stop you, god forbid you grow up and have some decency

edit: for a manual boost controller you will have some issues with the turbo dieing in the upper rpm, you need to get a boost controller with gain that can close the wastegate as the rpm goes up so you dont lose psi

civichbcx

Okay...but there's no need to answer a legit question the way that he did.

Why would it choke?

wantboost

iTrader: (2)

too small... uber quick spool up and probably die by 5-6k... i wouldnt expect more than 200whp..

AND QUIT BEING A ******* *****

civichbcx

5-6k is where VTEC kicks in, what happens to the turbo then? I know the boost is dropping, but does the increase in valve lift keep is spooling some what??

wantboost

iTrader: (2)

no boost basically.. it will fall to 5 or 4psi... just get a t3

stockredej1

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Soccerking3000

vtec wont help the turbo put out anymore air really, its a matter of the compressor size and so forth. A t25 is just to small you need to get something like a td05-td06 18g-20g if you want power all the way to redline. Also if you want super fast spool get a GT28R they are around 750 bucks brand new and will give you everything you need

civichbcx

How long along the RPM range would the GT28R take me at 8psi. Is that the Disco Potato? or is the GT28RS the Disco Potato?

Soccerking3000

gt28rs is the disco potato, its a much larger turbo and can handle around 340whp (i've seen it) the gt28r would be fine at 8 psi to 8k


Modified by Soccerking3000 at 5:33 PM 11/28/2005

bostoncal

Soccerking300!

civichbcx

Thanks, that's all I wanted to know.

CivicDXRaceCar

You should seriously shut your mouth you ******* bum.

civichbcx

Sorry, I was looking for an answer not a mock.