Supercharger vs. Turbocharger on B16A2 in a 99 Civic?!
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Supercharger vs. Turbocharger on B16A2 in a 99 Civic?!
With winter comming I am getting some ideas for next summer. I plan to drop a b16a2 in my Civic EX It will be a daily driven car so I want something reliable and with all around good response. I definately want some forced induction becuase Im looking to outrun as many mustangs as possible I love speed.
My two top choices were the Vortech Supercharger Kit or the FMAX Turbo Kit
I dont really know much about superchargers so the comparison is hard for me to make. I just recently drove a turbo civic and the response was terrible at the beginning but when the turbo kicked in it was fast. I think that might hve just been an improper install though. I really like the look of the intercooler and the sound of the blow off valve so I was leaning toward the turbo but any info would help thanks everyone!
My two top choices were the Vortech Supercharger Kit or the FMAX Turbo Kit
I dont really know much about superchargers so the comparison is hard for me to make. I just recently drove a turbo civic and the response was terrible at the beginning but when the turbo kicked in it was fast. I think that might hve just been an improper install though. I really like the look of the intercooler and the sound of the blow off valve so I was leaning toward the turbo but any info would help thanks everyone!
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Re: Supercharger vs. Turbocharger on B16A2 in a 99 Civic?! (BLKCivicPorcheStyle*)
i think the turbo is a better route because you have allot more expandability after the purchase thats just my 2 cents
ps you forgot the s in porSche in your screen name
ps you forgot the s in porSche in your screen name
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Turbo all the way. Much more fun and probably more reliable. I personally would not get the fmax turbo kit but thats just me. Before you decide check out the turbo kits on full-race.com or the cheapturbo.com turbo kit
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matters what u want turbo will give more power in the end and can be easily made to give more power but the SC will give you the power right off the line and I'd say is better for an autocross/road racing type. But if your the drag type go turbo!
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OK TURBO IT IS
Ok Great turbocharger system it is then. But I have noticed a couple people said no on the FMAX turbo which one would anyone reccomend? I was thinking FMAX but heres a site with a bunch http://www.turbokits.com Im up to suggestions thanks and about the S in porsche I forgot it bc I spell like an idiot thanks Ill put it in later if I can
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Don't waste you money on a supercharger...turbo all the way...check out cheapturbo.com and there peak boost kit....if your looking to out run mustangs dont look at the fmax kit it will only give you minor thrills over stock.
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Re: OK TURBO IT IS
I really want to go with a fully built b16 because I have plans to put the SOHC in a 92 hatchback and use it as a winter beater but anyother suggestions on which turbo to go with I know there are a lot of kits out there turbokits.com has a lot of them and I checked out that peak boost one Its something to think about but im looking for more imput. Help me to decide please
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Re: Supercharger vs. Turbocharger on B16A2 in a 99 Civic?! (SiKid86)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiKid86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">matters what u want turbo will give more power in the end and can be easily made to give more power but the SC will give you the power right off the line and I'd say is better for an autocross/road racing type. But if your the drag type go turbo!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Power off the line with a vortech blower? lol.
Low RPM power with the vortech blower is non existant. It isn't fun to drive on the street because you don't feel a surge of power or like it's very fast, it feels like a hardcore built to the max N/A motor, with a bit more top end. I sold my vortech blower for a huge loss, and I could not have been happier to not have it on my car anymore. I was glad to get rid of it, but totally regretted buying it in the first place. Go turbo, trust me. I've seen it from both sides.
Power off the line with a vortech blower? lol.
Low RPM power with the vortech blower is non existant. It isn't fun to drive on the street because you don't feel a surge of power or like it's very fast, it feels like a hardcore built to the max N/A motor, with a bit more top end. I sold my vortech blower for a huge loss, and I could not have been happier to not have it on my car anymore. I was glad to get rid of it, but totally regretted buying it in the first place. Go turbo, trust me. I've seen it from both sides.
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Okay to understand S/C there are certain ones for honda the screw and the roots (I think) and the centrifigal.
1. Centrigal have lag like turbos and there basically a turbo that runs on a belt. They also look like turbocharger. They dont' produce high low end torque but they do @ high end.
2. Roots s/c create alot of heat and + I dont know any for honda's.
3. Screws are more ideal cause they don't create all that heat and they produce high low end torque to mid range but leave you hanging up top. Screw dont have any lag its instant power. Which is not as good as it sounds seeing how fwd and traction dont mix.
1. Centrigal have lag like turbos and there basically a turbo that runs on a belt. They also look like turbocharger. They dont' produce high low end torque but they do @ high end.
2. Roots s/c create alot of heat and + I dont know any for honda's.
3. Screws are more ideal cause they don't create all that heat and they produce high low end torque to mid range but leave you hanging up top. Screw dont have any lag its instant power. Which is not as good as it sounds seeing how fwd and traction dont mix.
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I regret not getting a turbo over the very expensive and even more expensive to modify over 300hp Vortech sc.
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yeah Im definately set on a turbo now I didnt realise that supercharchers were so dissatisfying. Im just trying to decide which turbo kit to go with. Im thinking Drag Gen 3, Rev Hard, or FMAX any of those any good?
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Re: Supercharger vs. Turbocharger on B16A2 in a 99 Civic?! (BLKCivicPorcheStyle*)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKCivicPorcheStyle* »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah Im definately set on a turbo now I didnt realise that supercharchers were so dissatisfying. Im just trying to decide which turbo kit to go with. Im thinking Drag Gen 3, Rev Hard, or FMAX any of those any good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just think of a twin screw supercharger as turbo on belts but no lag.
Need to get more boost change the pulley.
Kenne bell s/c make 700 HP on cobra's @ 2.5 the TQ instantly jumps to 737 ft lbs
But I think turbos are more of top end kings.
Modified by MidShipCivic at 8:32 PM 9/15/2004
Just think of a twin screw supercharger as turbo on belts but no lag.
Need to get more boost change the pulley.
Kenne bell s/c make 700 HP on cobra's @ 2.5 the TQ instantly jumps to 737 ft lbs
But I think turbos are more of top end kings.
Modified by MidShipCivic at 8:32 PM 9/15/2004
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