such a ghetto turbo install. . . help badly!
#1
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
such a ghetto turbo install. . . help badly!
okay. so me and my friends just put in my turbo kit i got from a fellow member here on HT. it's a greddy 18g turbo.
anyway, pretty much everything up until the intercooler / fuel was good. check this out. the piping we got with this kit (pvc piping, ftl) didn't exactly work out properly, so we had to go dsm style and home depot tune it. we went and got pvc piping and clamps and hoses and elbows and whatnot, and we got it to hold, and we just zip tied it to the front bumper because i have no bumper / crash support bar. anyway. . .
we ran into another problem. the dsm 450's i got sucked. i lost the o rings that i was going to use so we couldn't put on the 450's, but the fuel pump is installed.
to top off the cherry, the downpipe didn't exactly mate with the exhaust cuz the exhaust was all welded with no bolts, so we just cut off the exhaust and i'm now running an open DP (maybe for another month or so). oh and also, the slave cylinder line is getting in the way of my intake from the turbine, so i don't have an intake atm.
i'm so fucked. what should i fix first?
please don't give me smart *** answers like get a new car or something stupid. gtfo if you're going to say **** like that
help needed greatly!
anyway, pretty much everything up until the intercooler / fuel was good. check this out. the piping we got with this kit (pvc piping, ftl) didn't exactly work out properly, so we had to go dsm style and home depot tune it. we went and got pvc piping and clamps and hoses and elbows and whatnot, and we got it to hold, and we just zip tied it to the front bumper because i have no bumper / crash support bar. anyway. . .
we ran into another problem. the dsm 450's i got sucked. i lost the o rings that i was going to use so we couldn't put on the 450's, but the fuel pump is installed.
to top off the cherry, the downpipe didn't exactly mate with the exhaust cuz the exhaust was all welded with no bolts, so we just cut off the exhaust and i'm now running an open DP (maybe for another month or so). oh and also, the slave cylinder line is getting in the way of my intake from the turbine, so i don't have an intake atm.
i'm so fucked. what should i fix first?
please don't give me smart *** answers like get a new car or something stupid. gtfo if you're going to say **** like that
help needed greatly!
#3
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Greenville, SC, UNITED STATES
Posts: 1,362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
best bet is to just try to make it work as well as you can. take the injectors with you and go around looking for some new orings for them. and slowly start to de-getto it as much as you can
#5
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Boilermaker1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boilermaker1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get the PVC out of there. For one, it melts at about 160 degrees and two, when it melts, the vapors are toxic.
Beyond that, ummm yeah.</TD></TR></TABLE>
last i checked, PVC was pretty heat resistant. and seeing as it's able to hold about 40-50psi of water (plumbing) i'm sure it can hold 8 lbs of boost. please correct me if i'm wrong.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snafubmx234 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need an intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so what should i use as the turbo filter then?
Beyond that, ummm yeah.</TD></TR></TABLE>
last i checked, PVC was pretty heat resistant. and seeing as it's able to hold about 40-50psi of water (plumbing) i'm sure it can hold 8 lbs of boost. please correct me if i'm wrong.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snafubmx234 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need an intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so what should i use as the turbo filter then?
#6
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bajiniashyu No Richomondo Desu
Posts: 2,918
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: such a ghetto turbo install. . . help badly! (gsr x civic)
not to be a dick but you should've never put the kit on to begin with until you had all your **** straight.
#7
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: such a ghetto turbo install. . . help badly! (. a d a m)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to be a dick but you should've never put the kit on to begin with until you had all your **** straight. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well see, originally, the guy i got my kit from said the piping would fit my car. so i thought it'd work. it didn't. and as we were doing my turbo, i forgot that i had my exhaust welded together, so we got fucked there. and i just happened to lose the dsm o rings so i got fucked in the ***. and then the slave cylinder line felt like ******* me in the *** too so i couldn't get my intake on.
well see, originally, the guy i got my kit from said the piping would fit my car. so i thought it'd work. it didn't. and as we were doing my turbo, i forgot that i had my exhaust welded together, so we got fucked there. and i just happened to lose the dsm o rings so i got fucked in the ***. and then the slave cylinder line felt like ******* me in the *** too so i couldn't get my intake on.
Trending Topics
#8
Member
Re: (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
last i checked, PVC was pretty heat resistant. and seeing as it's able to hold about 40-50psi of water (plumbing) i'm sure it can hold 8 lbs of boost. please correct me if i'm wrong.
so what should i use as the turbo filter then? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Melting temp and pressure are two completely different things. the fact that it holds water means squat about the temp it can handle, and the hotter it gets, the softer it gets, making it more likely to expand and burst.
Look it up on Mcmaster carr... their spec is even lower, they say max operating temp is 140F, lots of other places agree.
last i checked, PVC was pretty heat resistant. and seeing as it's able to hold about 40-50psi of water (plumbing) i'm sure it can hold 8 lbs of boost. please correct me if i'm wrong.
so what should i use as the turbo filter then? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Melting temp and pressure are two completely different things. the fact that it holds water means squat about the temp it can handle, and the hotter it gets, the softer it gets, making it more likely to expand and burst.
Look it up on Mcmaster carr... their spec is even lower, they say max operating temp is 140F, lots of other places agree.
#9
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Boilermaker1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boilermaker1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Melting temp and pressure are two completely different things. the fact that it holds water means squat about the temp it can handle, and the hotter it gets, the softer it gets, making it more likely to expand and burst.
their spec is even lower, they say max operating temp is 140F, lots of other places agree.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
so what does this suggest?
anyway, my plans are this. . tomorrow i'm going to go to the shop, have them fix up my intercooler piping. then i'll have them do my injectors and install the hondata and tune it.
hopefully after that everything will be okay. what do you guys think?
Melting temp and pressure are two completely different things. the fact that it holds water means squat about the temp it can handle, and the hotter it gets, the softer it gets, making it more likely to expand and burst.
their spec is even lower, they say max operating temp is 140F, lots of other places agree.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
so what does this suggest?
anyway, my plans are this. . tomorrow i'm going to go to the shop, have them fix up my intercooler piping. then i'll have them do my injectors and install the hondata and tune it.
hopefully after that everything will be okay. what do you guys think?
#11
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bajiniashyu No Richomondo Desu
Posts: 2,918
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: such a ghetto turbo install. . . help badly! (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well see, originally, the guy i got my kit from said the piping would fit my car. so i thought it'd work. it didn't. and as we were doing my turbo, i forgot that i had my exhaust welded together, so we got fucked there. and i just happened to lose the dsm o rings so i got fucked in the ***. and then the slave cylinder line felt like ******* me in the *** too so i couldn't get my intake on.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know what they say, when it comes to boost, hope for the best, but expect the worst.
well see, originally, the guy i got my kit from said the piping would fit my car. so i thought it'd work. it didn't. and as we were doing my turbo, i forgot that i had my exhaust welded together, so we got fucked there. and i just happened to lose the dsm o rings so i got fucked in the ***. and then the slave cylinder line felt like ******* me in the *** too so i couldn't get my intake on.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know what they say, when it comes to boost, hope for the best, but expect the worst.
#12
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Plano, Texas, United States
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (gsr x civic)
He is saying even though it can hold pressure over time as heat expands it it will get weaker and it could bust.
Still PVC is pretty ghetto and if it does start to melt the fumes are toxic I would get that fixed asap than fix your exhaust or what ever than you should be good with a tune.
Still PVC is pretty ghetto and if it does start to melt the fumes are toxic I would get that fixed asap than fix your exhaust or what ever than you should be good with a tune.
#13
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (TehGhett0P1mp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">must post pics...</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol no way man. it's too ghetto for pics! lol.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You know what they say, when it comes to boost, hope for the best, but expect the worst. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah. i figured. nothing ever works out as planned, and that's why it took us 9 hours to ghetto this ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TehGhett0P1mp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Still PVC is pretty ghetto and if it does start to melt the fumes are toxic I would get that fixed asap than fix your exhaust or what ever than you should be good with a tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay. well it won't heat up if i dont go into boost though, right?
well right now i only have money to fix my IC piping and get the hondata installed and tuned along with some injectors.
i don't think the open DP is an urgent thing, it's just incredibly noisy.
how's that plan? or should i get the exhaust fixed up ?
lol no way man. it's too ghetto for pics! lol.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You know what they say, when it comes to boost, hope for the best, but expect the worst. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah. i figured. nothing ever works out as planned, and that's why it took us 9 hours to ghetto this ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TehGhett0P1mp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Still PVC is pretty ghetto and if it does start to melt the fumes are toxic I would get that fixed asap than fix your exhaust or what ever than you should be good with a tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay. well it won't heat up if i dont go into boost though, right?
well right now i only have money to fix my IC piping and get the hondata installed and tuned along with some injectors.
i don't think the open DP is an urgent thing, it's just incredibly noisy.
how's that plan? or should i get the exhaust fixed up ?
#14
Member
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay. well it won't heat up if i dont go into boost though, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um... wow, I dont know where to start. You realize that with the engine running the average temp under the hood is about 130 F right? That being the average, there's also tons of spots that are hotter, the exhaust, the water lines, and so on.... meaning that so long as you START THE CAR, you're gonna be in trouble with PVC.
Why not take all the ghetto stuff off the car, and do it the right way?
Um... wow, I dont know where to start. You realize that with the engine running the average temp under the hood is about 130 F right? That being the average, there's also tons of spots that are hotter, the exhaust, the water lines, and so on.... meaning that so long as you START THE CAR, you're gonna be in trouble with PVC.
Why not take all the ghetto stuff off the car, and do it the right way?
#15
Honda-Tech Member
Re: (Boilermaker1)
yeah dude, get rid of the pvc. no respectable setup even if its a junkyard setup uses pvc. aluminum bends arent that expensive and if you say you cant afford to fix it then just go back to stock for a while until you save up. as far as the 450's go you can get a complete set of seals from napa or honda no biggie.
there will always be custom exhaust work needed for turbo cause hondas arent suppose to have turbos, a downpipe of any of that crap. it just comes with the territory. and even if you get all of that stuff fixed, get the hondata installed and tuned before you even think about boost.
there will always be custom exhaust work needed for turbo cause hondas arent suppose to have turbos, a downpipe of any of that crap. it just comes with the territory. and even if you get all of that stuff fixed, get the hondata installed and tuned before you even think about boost.
#17
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: where its sunny 24/7, wa
Posts: 1,983
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i know people who just use there stock injector o ring and just dremel the insides to fit the dsm's..thats what i did and everione fits nice and snug
#18
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Boilermaker1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boilermaker1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why not take all the ghetto stuff off the car, and do it the right way?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you think i'm trying to do? i just needed to get it running. and then i was planning on going to the shop and getting the piping done. gg.
what kind of injector o rings do i need to get ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and even if you get all of that stuff fixed, get the hondata installed and tuned before you even think about boost. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well i'm aware of that. i know i can't run no tune on stock injectors and boost it. i'm not that stupid. i just needed to get it running and home and worry about the problems later. tomorrow i'll get my stuff fixed up and i'll see what's going on. how much do you guys think getting the IC piping fixed up will cost? and the getting the hondata installed / tuned. . ? will i make it to the shop? it's like an hour away.
isn't it bad to run no intake? what happens if like, rocks and **** get into the turbine?
Why not take all the ghetto stuff off the car, and do it the right way?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you think i'm trying to do? i just needed to get it running. and then i was planning on going to the shop and getting the piping done. gg.
what kind of injector o rings do i need to get ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and even if you get all of that stuff fixed, get the hondata installed and tuned before you even think about boost. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well i'm aware of that. i know i can't run no tune on stock injectors and boost it. i'm not that stupid. i just needed to get it running and home and worry about the problems later. tomorrow i'll get my stuff fixed up and i'll see what's going on. how much do you guys think getting the IC piping fixed up will cost? and the getting the hondata installed / tuned. . ? will i make it to the shop? it's like an hour away.
isn't it bad to run no intake? what happens if like, rocks and **** get into the turbine?
#19
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Plano, Texas, United States
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well i'm aware of that. i know i can't run no tune on stock injectors and boost it. i'm not that stupid. i just needed to get it running and home and worry about the problems later. tomorrow i'll get my stuff fixed up and i'll see what's going on. how much do you guys think getting the IC piping fixed up will cost? and the getting the hondata installed / tuned. . ? will i make it to the shop? it's like an hour away.
isn't it bad to run no intake? what happens if like, rocks and **** get into the turbine?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I saw an IC piping kit around here for 170ish but im sure you can find it cheaper. It dpeends what hondata you want I kno hondata 300 cost 550 ish to buy and Hondata 200 is 300 ish.
Not sure on the install, but if your tuner can use chrome and if your tight on money(which i assume you are since you didnt get this stuff right in the first place) chrome is free you just need to buy the ecu to get it maped to and thats around 150 i believe...
well i'm aware of that. i know i can't run no tune on stock injectors and boost it. i'm not that stupid. i just needed to get it running and home and worry about the problems later. tomorrow i'll get my stuff fixed up and i'll see what's going on. how much do you guys think getting the IC piping fixed up will cost? and the getting the hondata installed / tuned. . ? will i make it to the shop? it's like an hour away.
isn't it bad to run no intake? what happens if like, rocks and **** get into the turbine?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I saw an IC piping kit around here for 170ish but im sure you can find it cheaper. It dpeends what hondata you want I kno hondata 300 cost 550 ish to buy and Hondata 200 is 300 ish.
Not sure on the install, but if your tuner can use chrome and if your tight on money(which i assume you are since you didnt get this stuff right in the first place) chrome is free you just need to buy the ecu to get it maped to and thats around 150 i believe...
#20
B*a*n*n*e*d
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: hawaii
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
lol. i forgot to add i did have the hondata s200 with boost and all options. if i were to have a shop do it, i can get the IC piping installed cheaper right? would it help if i put in the 450's on the way to the shop?
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo?
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo?
#23
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lower Right Hand Corner, PA
Posts: 5,643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what do you think i'm trying to do? i just needed to get it running.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he's saying is, when you do get it running, you're probably going to MELT THE PIPING. I mean, your turbo has 1200 degree air running right through it, don't you think the PCV piping on the compressor side might just get a tad bit above the 140 degree mark, IE where the piping starts to melt and spew toxic fumes into your cabin?
Not trying to bust on you, but that's a serious risk you're taking.
what do you think i'm trying to do? i just needed to get it running.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he's saying is, when you do get it running, you're probably going to MELT THE PIPING. I mean, your turbo has 1200 degree air running right through it, don't you think the PCV piping on the compressor side might just get a tad bit above the 140 degree mark, IE where the piping starts to melt and spew toxic fumes into your cabin?
Not trying to bust on you, but that's a serious risk you're taking.
#24
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Plano, Texas, United States
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol. i forgot to add i did have the hondata s200 with boost and all options. if i were to have a shop do it, i can get the IC piping installed cheaper right? would it help if i put in the 450's on the way to the shop?
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not sure how much it would cost but id imagine if you get some materials for them they would fab it up dirt heap for you.
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not sure how much it would cost but id imagine if you get some materials for them they would fab it up dirt heap for you.
#25
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: dirty jerzzzz
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (gsr x civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>
there's plenty of people running 0 intake on their turbo, but they run the risk of rocks and **** like you said
some cheap/easy intake solutions are if you already have an intake, just throw the filter on the terbie.
orr if you can find the really stiff metal mesh you can use that, just make sure you tighten the fukkkkk outta the t-bolt clamp, make sure it doesnt get sucked in
and what about that answer to the intake on the turbo? </TD></TR></TABLE>
there's plenty of people running 0 intake on their turbo, but they run the risk of rocks and **** like you said
some cheap/easy intake solutions are if you already have an intake, just throw the filter on the terbie.
orr if you can find the really stiff metal mesh you can use that, just make sure you tighten the fukkkkk outta the t-bolt clamp, make sure it doesnt get sucked in