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Old 08-23-2012, 07:44 AM
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Default Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

I have reached the limit on my A1000 and now its time to upgrade. I still drive the car on the streets even though the car is starting to be a bit more geared towards the track. I am very happy with the power the car made but I would like get a little more MPH out of my gears.

I would like to stick to running 1 pump rather than 2. I know a Weldon is probably going to be the answer but there has to be another solution to getting me just a little bit more fuel. Weldons are quite a bit more money than the Magnafuel pumps and I am not financially ready to keep transmissions together at 800+whp.

The car, on my "gangster" tune, is making 738whp at 28psi revving 8700rpm. Since the fuel pump wasn't keeping pressure consistent up top, we had to lower the boost about 5psi and take the rev limit down to 8000. I need to be able to rev the engine to 9500 to make my turbo/gearing work properly.

Just curious if any of you guys have used a Magnafuel 4303 in your street/track cars? Its rated at 2000+hp but I know that running ethanol, its going to be less. I have seen that people are having good success with them on the streets as well, just wanted to get some feedback from some Honda enthusiasts.

Btw- I will only drive the car to and from work (20 mins each way) once in a while and out to some of the hangouts on the weekends. All inner city driving, no road trips. When it goes to the track, it will be on a trailer.

Thanks for the help guys!
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A lot of people making big power are using dual Bosch 044's in parallel or a Weldon 2035
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A lot of people making big power are using dual Bosch 044's in parallel or a Weldon 2035
Ya 044's are a good setup but I really just want to stick with one pump. The Weldon pumps are probably the best but there has to be something that will suit my needs for less money. I would like to avoid running a pump controller as well because that just adds to the cost of the pump,thats why I have been looking into the Magnafuel 4303. I have been getting some feedback on it and people are making 950+ using that pump with e85 and ID2000s.
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Look on racingjunkdotcom for a used pump from the v8 crowd maybe? Im running e98 on my turbo b set up using 2 a1000's . Getting ready to see how well its going to work. Another issue to look into is regulators once you bring it to that level. Think im going to run a regulator for each of my rails to try and minimize any volume loss at each of the last injectors to see fuel. Just my 2 cents...
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Default Re: Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

Also to be noted that the Weldon pumps are not intended for street use at all. I'm sure there are people doing it but if you're gonna spend that much money on a pump I'd suggest following manufacturer warnings lol.

After doing a quick search, this pump is very intriguing. V8 guys are making 1000+rwhp on E85 no problem with it, and the price as half of the Weldon boys.

(Actually interested here too, as I'm looking at fueling similar goals)
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A good friend of mine is running a Weldon on his 363 98 mm turbo mustang . He drives it everywhere and has been for years. Its a low 8 car currently. About to be 7's. On street tires. Hes seen no issues at all with the pump ever but is now going to make the switch to e98 and has 2 large Weldon on it. Ive seen a lot of big power street cars and never heard of any issues for what its worth.
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Originally Posted by SovXietday
Also to be noted that the Weldon pumps are not intended for street use at all. I'm sure there are people doing it but if you're gonna spend that much money on a pump I'd suggest following manufacturer warnings lol.

After doing a quick search, this pump is very intriguing. V8 guys are making 1000+rwhp on E85 no problem with it, and the price as half of the Weldon boys.

(Actually interested here too, as I'm looking at fueling similar goals)
Right! Thats why this pump could be the golden ticket for alot of people! If people are making 950+ on E85, then this pump is good for just about 97% of the people out there. The price of it really seals the deal.

With a Weldon, they recommend running a Weldon pump speed controller if its going to be used for long periods of time on the street. I have heard that Alot of people are running then on the street but I dont really think I want to risk hurting an $800 fuel pump.

Originally Posted by Camsshaft
A good friend of mine is running a Weldon on his 363 98 mm turbo mustang . He drives it everywhere and has been for years. Its a low 8 car currently. About to be 7's. On street tires. Hes seen no issues at all with the pump ever but is now going to make the switch to e98 and has 2 large Weldon on it. Ive seen a lot of big power street cars and never heard of any issues for what its worth.
Which model Weldon did he run when it was a single pump setup? Was it on gas or e85 back then?
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Before I could even order it, look what shows up!!



Time to load up the "Gangster" tune!

My GF and Rob Morse need to communicate less LOL!

Thank you TPR!!!
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Default Re: Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

i had the same issue on my a1000, and well after talking to spoolinmatt on here i bought an aeromotive pro-series pump.

my 84.5/b16a2/id2000's makes 747@32psi now on a 6265 reving to 10.2k rpms.

i drive mine to and from work thats about 25 miles a day and have no issues
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
i had the same issue on my a1000, and well after talking to spoolinmatt on here i bought an aeromotive pro-series pump.

my 84.5/b16a2/id2000's makes 747@32psi now on a 6265 reving to 10.2k rpms.

i drive mine to and from work thats about 25 miles a day and have no issues
Ya I really like my A1000 and it hasnt once given me any issues. Just not enough supply.

Btw- I like seeing big power b16's
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Default Re: Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

On my set up next year I will be runing dual 044s and Xenocron surge tank with E85. Hoping to make same power as to my current build just plan on using 1 fuel for the most part. cant go wrong with the dual 044s
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My only scare was losing one pump and the car going lean. That is a proven setup tho. Especially with the surge tank.
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I have for sale PPG gears 4.40 final b-series,second gear spear ,speed factory shiftholder ,fork 3-4 speed factory ,quaife lsd,case and the oders forks and reverse price $6,000
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Nice parts but I dont have that kind of money. Try listing that in the monthly "Drag Racing" classifieds

GLWS.
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http://aeromotiveinc.com/products-pa...ies-fuel-pump/

good for 850+ on e85 man
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Default Re: Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

I run dual DW340s through stock -6 lines to 700+whp on E98. I just have a -6 T fitting in the tank feeding a stock rail as well.

This is on a V6.. but it shouldtn matter.
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Default Re: Street/Track fuel pump questions: (700-800whp) on Ethanol

Originally Posted by sanman000719
Ya I looked into that but my biggest issue was running the -12AN fittings down to a -8AN, which is what my feed is after the pump. I didnt really want to redo all my fuel lines just to get a little more fuel either, ya know?
Originally Posted by darkhorizon
I run dual DW340s through stock -6 lines to 700+whp on E98. I just have a -6 T fitting in the tank feeding a stock rail as well.

This is on a V6.. but it shouldtn matter.
Those 340's are nice pumps. Both outflow my A1000.


I should have my Magnafuel Pump hooked up tomorrow.
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