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Old 08-23-2004, 11:12 AM
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Default stock wrx turbo a good matchup for a d16?

i saw someone post their setup on an 00 d16y7 with a stock wrx turbo(TD04L-13G) but i can't find it anymore

anyone know the trim sizes and what not on the wrx turbo. i've searched for the past half an hour with no luck. i'm curious as to how good of a matchup that turbo is cuz i'm also building an hmt setup for my y7.

plz help me asap,

thanks guys,

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Old 08-24-2004, 04:34 AM
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no one?
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EDIT: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=142398 for instructions on how to read this baby
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Personally Id get a used saab turbo for under $150 and go with that, but it really depends on when you want to spool and how much power you are trying to make.
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omg i just read that How to read .. and i still have noooo clue how to interperet the data from that map into "when it would spool up on my d16" haha

oh man it must be cuz its early morning

joe wanna give it a quick run down in laymens terms what that map means for me and my d16?

thanks i appreciate it

-Luke

EDIT: xrunner: thats exactly what i'm trying to find out. is when this snail would spool up and stuff. i was first looking at a saab t3 but ppl are asking way to much for them. and i see these go for less. plus they have ALOT less mileage.. a member on HMT posted his setup.. almost exactly the same that i'm looking at using and he was running this turbo. he hit 186whp with 175torque on his stock y7.. same motor as me. thats why i'm interested in finding out when this would spool up.
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how do I calculate the CFM for a d16z6?
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(CID x RPM) / 3456 = CFM

(Cubic Inch Displacement x Redline RPM) / 3456 = CFM
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For converting cc's to cubic inches, the formula is:
:: cc ÷ 16.387 = cubic inches


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That turbo would offer great spool-up, but would die after around 5000rpm. The 13g isn't that great of a turbo. The 14b is a better choice, and should be just as cheap, or, use a t3 from one of the eleventy billion cars that came with one from the factory (Saab, SVO, etc...).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endless &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That turbo would offer great spool-up, but would die after around 5000rpm. The 13g isn't that great of a turbo. The 14b is a better choice, and should be just as cheap, or, use a t3 from one of the eleventy billion cars that came with one from the factory (Saab, SVO, etc...).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine fully spools by 3.5k with a stock exhaust and holds all the way till redline. I went with one of these because of the mileage on these things. I got mine with less then 1k on it for 200 bucks cdn. Most of the T3s come off older cars with lots of mileage so condition is really unknown.
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good luck finding a manifold to fit it!
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i like this turbo so much because of its low low low mileage. talking like 15k and under.

i was planning on running the hf/std/cx mani with adapter plate
i'll do what this guy did:
http://hometown.aol.com/scttydb411/hmtproject.html

he just re-tuned his stuff with uber on a p06 and hit 186whp/175wtq. he's running EXACTLY what i was planning on running(with uber)


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that's me...i need to update my webpage.

use that turbo. i got mine with 8k miles on it. great turbo and hp pulls all the way to redline. 11psi by 3.3k rpm starts building boost by 2.5k rpm. now if you want something with a little more power go with a bigger t3 compressor, but a .42/.48 won't be much different, however you'll probably need to build the motor if you're going much past 200-210 whp. the td04L is a great street turbo w/ instant spool...larger t3 will be more laggier, but higher whp...depends on what you're looking for.

go with it...you'll be happy.
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nah i'm deffinitly looking for just a little street pep. i dont want to get into internals or anything. i'd be PLENTY happy with 186whp and 175wtq

could i get a copy of the map your running. to use as a reference. i know mine wouldn't be the same but should be pretty close
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it's posted up on uberdata's site...feel free to pull it. definately need to tune specifically for your car. csaddict just used my older map and had to tune a bit for his setup.
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awesome. thanks alot scott

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scttydb411 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's me...i need to update my webpage.

use that turbo. i got mine with 8k miles on it. great turbo and hp pulls all the way to redline. 11psi by 3.3k rpm starts building boost by 2.5k rpm. now if you want something with a little more power go with a bigger t3 compressor, but a .42/.48 won't be much different, however you'll probably need to build the motor if you're going much past 200-210 whp. the td04L is a great street turbo w/ instant spool...larger t3 will be more laggier, but higher whp...depends on what you're looking for.

go with it...you'll be happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I get boost from 2000 and 11 psi @ 3200 with my .63 turbine housing (stg1) and 50trim straight T3, just for comparison. Turbo was $30 and probably supports a bit more RPM and HP than the wrx jobby. Feels much more linear than my old POS t25 setup which from my resarch seems to be similar to the tdo4l...
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My wrx turbo kicks *** !!! Spools very fast, doesn't seem to run outta cfm and its prob. the BEST alround turbo for a mild SOHC that is meant for the street and daily driving...

I get 10psi by around 2800roms and I have 8.4/1 compression... Stock 1 1/2'' exhuast too
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what about the tdo4 19t?
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wow, never knew the adapter plate existed. but if you have it use it, you can maybe even try for a vf34, or if you want more top end vf22.
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i don't know anything about the td04 19t ??


arn't those vf turbo's wayy to big for my stock d16??

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The TDO4-19T is used on the newer volvos. It would have sick top end, but good luck finding one for a decent price, and the other turbos ( 14B, T3 ) would be a much more pratiable choice.

The 19T is sweet for good spool-up, and great top-end, but there are much cheaper turbos that can do that...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, never knew the adapter plate existed. but if you have it use it, you can maybe even try for a vf34, or if you want more top end vf22.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if i ever find a vf34 cheaply, which is the upgrade from the td04L, i'll try it since it'll be a direct bolt on affair.

my next project though is getting another y7 block real cheap, sleeves, pistons, rods and dropping the freshly rebuilt t3 .60/.63 i have sitting waiting for some duty.
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why would the 14b and t3 be a more practical choice? these 13g's sell for like a 100 bucks and have almost always have less than 15k miles on them. basically brand new. they seem to put out exactly the amount of power i'm looking for?

any other suggestions or opinions on this turbo?

thanks guys


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