Stock Uberdata GSR map running rich?
01-30-2006, 07:30 AM
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Stock Uberdata GSR map running rich?
I swapped out my injectors so basically I'm running stock 240cc integra ingectors and running the chipped uberdata Stockgsr.bin. My wideband is still in there and idle is at 10AFR and cruising I'm rich also at 12.5ish AFR everywhere. The fuel maps are untouched. Am I missing somthing here?
This is on a B18C1, fuel pressure is static at 46psi.
This is on a B18C1, fuel pressure is static at 46psi.
01-30-2006, 07:37 AM
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Re: Stock Uberdata GSR map running rich? (Black-LS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-LS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I swapped out my injectors so basically I'm running stock 240cc integra ingectors and running the chipped uberdata Stockgsr.bin. My wideband is still in there and idle is at 10AFR and cruising I'm rich also at 12.5ish AFR everywhere. The fuel maps are untouched. Am I missing somthing here?
This is on a B18C1, fuel pressure is static at 46psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so tune the biatch
This is on a B18C1, fuel pressure is static at 46psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so tune the biatch
01-30-2006, 08:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are running in open loop I don't know what you expect. The stock maps are suppose to be rich, that is why we have an O2 sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea, its open loop with the O2 disabled. I figured the stock map would be rich and safe, but I didn't figure that much. I just wanted to know if that was normal. So this is normal until I get the O2 back in there and running closed loop?
yea, its open loop with the O2 disabled. I figured the stock map would be rich and safe, but I didn't figure that much. I just wanted to know if that was normal. So this is normal until I get the O2 back in there and running closed loop?
01-30-2006, 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-LS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yea, its open loop with the O2 disabled. I figured the stock map would be rich and safe, but I didn't figure that much. I just wanted to know if that was normal. So this is normal until I get the O2 back in there and running closed loop? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep. Happens to the best of us.
Why not just take the Narrowband output from your wideband and run it to your O2 signal input?
yea, its open loop with the O2 disabled. I figured the stock map would be rich and safe, but I didn't figure that much. I just wanted to know if that was normal. So this is normal until I get the O2 back in there and running closed loop? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep. Happens to the best of us.
Why not just take the Narrowband output from your wideband and run it to your O2 signal input?
01-30-2006, 08:44 AM
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Re: (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep. Happens to the best of us.
Why not just take the Narrowband output from your wideband and run it to your O2 signal input? </TD></TR></TABLE>
long story... but the WB is barrowed. and I'm trying to SMOG the damn car... WHOO HOO! for California! Anyway... had some other issues developing when running the 440cc and now I just need to pass smog since my registration is expired already...
Why not just take the Narrowband output from your wideband and run it to your O2 signal input? </TD></TR></TABLE>
long story... but the WB is barrowed. and I'm trying to SMOG the damn car... WHOO HOO! for California! Anyway... had some other issues developing when running the 440cc and now I just need to pass smog since my registration is expired already...
01-30-2006, 09:27 AM
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are you sure that your FP is suppose to be at 46, i know with most stock maps it is suppose to be in the range of 36-38 from what i've heard, and read. look into it, i talked to the hondata dealers and the base maps are made for 38 psi fp.
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01-30-2006, 09:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK_GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you sure that your FP is suppose to be at 46, i know with most stock maps it is suppose to be in the range of 36-38 from what i've heard, and read. look into it, i talked to the hondata dealers and the base maps are made for 38 psi fp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think so, I'll some more knowledgable people chime in and correct me. Its got a JRSC on there and static FP on the B&M is set at 46psi, and static on the JR FMU is 61psi. With the vacuum hose on the B&M and the motor idling, FP is at about 39-40psi. But yea, I was wondering too if my FP is incorrectly set.
I think so, I'll some more knowledgable people chime in and correct me. Its got a JRSC on there and static FP on the B&M is set at 46psi, and static on the JR FMU is 61psi. With the vacuum hose on the B&M and the motor idling, FP is at about 39-40psi. But yea, I was wondering too if my FP is incorrectly set.
01-30-2006, 10:25 AM
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Put fuel pressure around 40-42 with the vaccum hose connected. Stock maps are supposed to be rich because if the O2 sensor dies then you are running off the maps and running off the stock maps means that they are tuned to be very safe in case of a disaster like an injector starting to fail or bad tank of gas, etc.
Enable closed loop if you are running your stock injectors and stock 02 sensor then you will be at the 14.7 AFR's during cruise like you are supposed to be at. Otherwise go ahead and TUNE it. fuel tunnig is fairly easy. Just o slow taking out a couple percent with entire rows or columns then take bigger steps as you notice how the percentages work. GL
Enable closed loop if you are running your stock injectors and stock 02 sensor then you will be at the 14.7 AFR's during cruise like you are supposed to be at. Otherwise go ahead and TUNE it. fuel tunnig is fairly easy. Just o slow taking out a couple percent with entire rows or columns then take bigger steps as you notice how the percentages work. GL
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