CIVIC TYPE_R_

I wanted to get yur guys input on which would be a good dd turbo engine. On stock internals with both engines having the b16 with lsd tranny? I don't plan on going more than 10 psi of boost and with a hp goal of 300. Ive read that the b20 is good motor with tq but was not mentioned bein turbod. Any advice would b great.

96teggylsse

b16 good tune on 10 psi

CIVIC TYPE_R_

Anyone else?

CIVIC TYPE_R_

BUMP!

w0ng_sta

i have a completely stock b16 tuned to 10lbs but dd 8.5-9 lasted over 2 years with me being pretty cruel to it.. get a nice tune and make sure the motor is in good condition and you should be fine. I'd get head studs though

stockb18c

b16 FTW you will love how much these lil motors can put out i have stock b16a on 10 psi 30 mpg and raping LS1s and GTOs all day

Bjorn20

Both good options, either way your going to make enough power to break the tires loose. Depends where you want to make your power at.

TunerToys

I'd have to check the specs on these two, but I believe you'll have more fun boosting the B16, as it is built for quicker revving, than the B20 (depending on which B20 it is). I believe that rod-stroke ratios are what makes teh difference in the engines. Both will be fun under boost!

Craig

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umair

from what i have heard b16s are the best for boost. dont b20 have thin walls??

CIVIC TYPE_R_

I forgot to mention the boosted motor is going into a 99 EK civic. Would that even matter?

umair

not really.

LastGenEK

I Have a B18C and its pretty fun and fast++++

As much as i want a B20 i would probably buy a B16 because they rev so dam fast haha and they love boost

And they have the best rod to stroke ratio

jarvis199

ive had both, stock block b16 and stock block b20 boosted...

they were both fast, at 10psi the b16 would win, mostly because i could rev it 1500 rpms higher that the b20, and it made more power on the same boost levels...

not to mention b16's (when well tuned) love to get beat on... mine made 305whp on 10psi, and lasted 6 months, only reason i took it out was to put in a built block. Now, i would say a b20 would last at those levels too, but i wouldnt do it, the sleeves just scare me...

CIVIC TYPE_R_

Is yur b18c1 boosted? If not how much better is yur all motor better than the turbod b16.

KeyserSoze

It's time to break in that search button dude.

His gsr is boosted. I agree with what others said, time to take our advice and end this thread (unless you have a DIFFERENT question).

b16 will rev higher and depending on the turbo give you more rpm's under pressure than will the b20. I agree with the stock b20 cylinder walls worrying me a bit. If I was gonna pick one it would be the b16.

ps - An n/a gsr would have to be pretty crazy to be faster (1/4 mile per se) than a boosted b16 (which most people will push to ~300whp).

flangemastermike

id have to say tubo b16, i dont like b20's that much, after all its a not meant for high performance. they dont like being rev'd higher than stock plus thin cyclinder walls.

CIVIC TYPE_R_

Would a good tune and arp studs, 10psi be reliable enough for a dd? Ive read alot of threads hear saying that boosted b16's are great but they should of gotten the gsr instead cuz of the tq factor. Not to b off subject or anything would u rather have a b16 or gsr at 300hp.

KeyserSoze

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You have not read that many threads because you are still looking at things in terms of boost pressure not hp. It's time to do some research for yourself. READ THE FAQ's!!!! You will find most of the answers you are looking for. After that search, search and then search some more. When you have done both of these things then you will have a much better understanding of what your goals are. Then AFTER you have done this and have questions ask (and I gaurentee that the questions you ask will be more pointed because you will have some understanding) and you will get answers to your questions. Right now all you are doing is coming up with more questions for the answers that people give you because you do not really understand what is going on..........

Lemme ask YOU a question

1) What are you going to do with the added tq of the gsr when you likely won't even get traction in your b16-t @ 300whp??

To answer your question..........I would rather have whatever engine I could afford to have turbo'd and be somewhat reliable.

You are asking an open ended very subjective question........every will have an opinion and you know what??? THEY WILL ALL BE RIGHT. Everyone will have a different opinion.......you are looking for someone to make up your mind for you. And in the end it's your job to make up your own mind. You will only do that AFTER doing some research and understanding for yourself what you are really looking for. This thread is not research. Just stating a fact.

CIVIC TYPE_R_

Wow buddy u need a hug? Calm down I only asked for suggestions.

hbyrd8701

don't be scared of the b20 sleeve. I guess the reason why I said that is there a guy that turbo his stock b20 and had his setup for almost 2 years. he ran almost every car that came across if it on the streets or track. not to mentioned that his car is a dd. his motor is untune just a basemap and trust me, I never image that his motor would last this long, hell he blew more turbo than anything else. I'm not saying that b20 are better than b16, just that his b20 sleeve have not fail him yet. for me seeing is believe and I believe that b20 sleeves are stronger than I though.

isk8usds

b16 pistons are the highest compression usdm pistons, not made for boost. if you can change pistons in the b16 definatly do that. Best bet if it is possible is a gsr, with a different intake manifold. or b20 vtec (for the rpms and dispacement) b20 sleeves will be fine

hbyrd8701

boosting a b16 is fine too. its been done 1 billion times. there a good bit of stock b16 around here that turbo tune and untune.

CIVIC TYPE_R_

thanks for the input guys. What stage clutch should i use if i stay at 10 psi? What clutch should i get.

hbyrd8701

I can't tell you which complany to go with but I would atlease go with a stage 3 clutch. oh yea 10psi won't tell how much power u going make if u decided to with the b16 or b20.

A BOOSTED CRX

im tuned on 14 pounds making 309 to the wheels with my stock b16

good tuner makes all the difference