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Old 01-20-2006, 12:41 AM
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If i were to run turbo on stock ecu, would changing the fuel regulator be good enuf?
Old 01-20-2006, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: stock ecu, fuel regulator (hoskos)

No... do a search on "FMU"

the wahlbro fuel pump seems pretty popular


keep in mind running a FMU setup, and not a standalone or Uberdata is like choping your finger off with a butchers knife and using bandaids to reattach it
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FMU's arent that bad if you keep the boost low, like no more than 8 psi. and if you do use an FMU, you will need an external pump to provide the extra volume of fuel. it isnt just pressure that is needed, it is volume.

for ***** and grins,
here ls a friends setup, FMU BTM and 310's i think. read it.
i still cant figure out how he is doing it.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1455903


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Old 01-20-2006, 08:08 AM
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Maybe a few years ago FMU's weren't "that" bad, but that's beacause there weren't other options. With the options we have these days the FMU is a piece of crap. Look into getting your ECU chipped if you want to make good power and your motor to last.
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beerbong, you always have the best responses



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so it's safe as long as i keep under 8psi??
coz my ecu's taking bitch *** long to arrive, i've upped my pump but i haven't gotten down to changing my regulator
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No it won't be very safe at all. Changing the fpr will do nothing.
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FMU isn't ideal, but you'll be fine so long as you're running less than 8 psi of boost and your Air/Fuel is less than 12.5:1. If you're budget dictates it, you can go this way and always upgrade later.

I'm running a bone stock s2000 F20C with just a 12:1 Synchronic regulator and Walbro 255 and I'm doing close to 300 to the fly at 7 psi of boost. I've been driving reliably for way over 6 months, I drag race and drift the car with no problems.

In any setup, if you address detonation, you won't have problems. Run a bigger head gasket to lower your compression until you have the resources to build the block and get a standalone.
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Your running that on a s2000 motor? Your a fricking idiot if you think that's safe an reliable lol...
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What makes you think it isn't safe and reliable. Why don't you educate me on what it is about this setup that will blow my motor? Why don't you educate me on how much cylinder pressure it takes to pop this block.

I have a Motec ADL1 logging all parameters at 1000 samples/sec, and running 12.3:1 at WOT and 7 PSI of boost. No ping, no detonation making close to 300 to the wheel, stock injectors, stock cat, stock exhaust.

If "you're" in San Diego, you're welcome to go for a ride, I guarantee it rides smoother than any half ***, half tuned cars out there.
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So is that 300 at the flywheel or at the wheels? You said flywheel in the post before, then you said 300 at the wheels. For one your fuel pressure is going to be extremely high and those stock 360cc injectors will be maxed out (that's not very safe if you ask me). You say you only have this fpr/fmu, so what have you done with your timing? The compression on your motor is 11:1 right? Just dumping fuel in without doing anything to your timing isn't a good idea (no way on stock timing), you should have that high c/r motor tuned better than that. 12.3:1 is a little lean if you ask me too (I'd do more like 11.8:1 or so). I also find it hard to believe you did this all on stock exhaust/cat (that has to be holding you back). I mean 7psi and that much power? You must have a huge turbo.
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Sorry, I meant Fly, per the original post. S2000's regularly do 7 psi on the stock 11:1 block, it is a well engineered combustion chamber. Comptech SC kits regularly run 7 psi on the stock block and pump gas with just a regulator as well on their kits. Nothing done to timing, I was pretty blown away too when I started playing with the S2K that it wasn't spitting parts or detonating with boost.

Ask any of the S2ki guys in San Diego, if I am bone stock with a cat. You'll see it on TPR in a little while. I know that it sounds lean, but I'm not pinging and there's rough combustion at richer mixtures.

Turbo is a 60-1 T3/T4, .63 A/R, Wastegate to atmosphere
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