Still lookin for a turbo.....need some more suggestions on size
12-29-2005, 07:01 AM
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Still lookin for a turbo.....need some more suggestions on size
I'm looking to make about 300whp on my GSR....i'm running 8psi to start and i'd like that to be around 270whp if possible w/ 300 around 10psi......i've been looking for a turbo for a while and i've always been looking for a T3/T4E 57 or 60Trim w/ the .63AR......i hear its a good one for my set up, but i was wondering what everyone thinks....also would a Precision SC50 .48 AR work well for me???
Thanks for all the help!!
Thanks for all the help!!
12-29-2005, 07:15 AM
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would the SC50 be too small??? What about a T3/60-1 (.82ar)???
I think the SC61 would be toooooo laggy for me....
Modified by Schister66 at 8:31 AM 12/29/2005
I think the SC61 would be toooooo laggy for me....
Modified by Schister66 at 8:31 AM 12/29/2005
12-29-2005, 08:12 AM
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between an SC50, T3/60-1 (.82AR), and a T3/T4E 60 trim .63 ar......which would best meet my goal of 270whp or so at 8psi and around 300+whp at 10-12psi??
The SC61 was suggested, but i don't know how that compares to the T3/60-1 that i was looking at....i know its bigger than the other 2 w/ the SC50 being the smallest......
I'm also hoping to hit 8psi by 4500rpm.....sooner is better
The SC61 was suggested, but i don't know how that compares to the T3/60-1 that i was looking at....i know its bigger than the other 2 w/ the SC50 being the smallest......
I'm also hoping to hit 8psi by 4500rpm.....sooner is better
12-29-2005, 08:26 AM
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well, with the sc50 on my ls (i realize you have a different motor), i am making 220 at 8.5 psi fully tuned. So it would seem that you wouldnt be able to make 50 more hp at the same psi with a smaller motor and a better flowing head, but who knows. If it means anything to you, i get full boost at 3500 rpm.
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12-29-2005, 09:05 AM
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The t3/t04 .57 60 trim .63 AR will be fine. You might have to adjust here and there on your PSI(higher), but it will work. Are you planning on running internals or not? That can be a deciding factor on how much power you will make.
12-29-2005, 09:20 AM
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one quick question there.....is the SC50 too small or the T3/60-1 too big?? I've looked at the compressor maps and they're similar, but the T3/60-1 flows a lot more air high end....
12-29-2005, 09:41 AM
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i thiink the T3/60-1 is out because i think its way to big for me.....i might just look at the SC50.....i guess its fairly comparible to the T3T4E 57 Trim.....
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
12-29-2005, 09:45 AM
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i know i'm writing a lot, but i was wondering would the SC61 be similar to the t3/60-1 because if that makes good power......i could just use the T3/60-1 and have lots of power....
All i'm really trying to do is find something that will make good power and be safe on my engine....lower PSI is safer.....
All i'm really trying to do is find something that will make good power and be safe on my engine....lower PSI is safer.....
12-29-2005, 10:10 AM
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just talked to the tuner....he suggested SC61 and wasn't real confident w/ the T3/60-1.....oh what to do....*deep thought 
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he thinks the SC50 is a little small, the 57 trim is his hybrid choice and the SC61 is what he suggests highly, but i'm not oging to upgrade for AT LEAST 4 years becaus i'm an Architecture student and i'm paying for college too......i need something a little cheaper....
The T3/60-1 is a good price and so is the SC50....and all of the hybrids are 60trim, but priced well nonetheless....
This is tough.....lol
*he thinks the SC50 is a little small, the 57 trim is his hybrid choice and the SC61 is what he suggests highly, but i'm not oging to upgrade for AT LEAST 4 years becaus i'm an Architecture student and i'm paying for college too......i need something a little cheaper....
The T3/60-1 is a good price and so is the SC50....and all of the hybrids are 60trim, but priced well nonetheless....
This is tough.....lol
12-29-2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: (Schister66)
why not look into the t3/t4 .48 a/r witha 50 trim, or a gt28rs if money isn't a big concern.
If this is going to be a street car why would u want to rev past 5.5k to get what you've spent all your money on?
The quickest ive seen a .63 a/r t3/t4 spool is around 5.5k and the sc61 is bigger. The .48 a/r will hold boost til 8k and spool quick. Not sure about the t3/60-1....
If this is going to be a street car why would u want to rev past 5.5k to get what you've spent all your money on?
The quickest ive seen a .63 a/r t3/t4 spool is around 5.5k and the sc61 is bigger. The .48 a/r will hold boost til 8k and spool quick. Not sure about the t3/60-1....
12-29-2005, 10:19 AM
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"my sc61 spools at4800 rpms w/ a 2.5" dowmpipe on a gsr i think it spools to quick, lol "
thats like 4 posts up.....
idk what to do....i just want to buy something and be happy w/ it.....280-300whp on stock
i have an 8psi wg but i can get a boost controller....i was thinking of just runnin 8psi, but if that's not good power, i'll buy a bc.....
Money is an issue tooo....with the parts i was going to buy before some sold and w/e....this was all going to cost like $2500 w/ a clutch and tuning......i can do that no prob....GT28RS is out of the question....too much!!
thats like 4 posts up.....
idk what to do....i just want to buy something and be happy w/ it.....280-300whp on stock
i have an 8psi wg but i can get a boost controller....i was thinking of just runnin 8psi, but if that's not good power, i'll buy a bc.....
Money is an issue tooo....with the parts i was going to buy before some sold and w/e....this was all going to cost like $2500 w/ a clutch and tuning......i can do that no prob....GT28RS is out of the question....too much!!
12-29-2005, 10:43 AM
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Re: (Schister66)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue98Ex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lower PSI is not safer for the motor. The PSI doesnt matter its the Horse power that kills a motor </TD></TR></TABLE>
so that means , i can boost up in the 20 lb but as long as i dont make over 250 hp?...ive seen stock gsr tune w/ hondata boostin 8-10 lb making over 250 to 300 hp and holding up fine...
so that means , i can boost up in the 20 lb but as long as i dont make over 250 hp?...ive seen stock gsr tune w/ hondata boostin 8-10 lb making over 250 to 300 hp and holding up fine...
12-29-2005, 11:45 AM
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The t3/t4 50trim 48ar is the same as the SC50 .48ar that I am selling. Im pretty sure you can make 300 on stock internals with the sc50 on 10lbs. My friend from inline pro made 315 on a stock GS-R. headgasket and a t3/t4 setup.
12-29-2005, 07:14 PM
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Have you looked into the sc32 or sc34? My goal was also 300hp on my stock block GSR and I was also hoping to run under 11psi because of the stock map sensor, so I went with the sc34. However, I didnt have enough to tune it so I must keep waiting for money to arrive. I was planning on being boosted by the new year 
12-29-2005, 07:24 PM
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Re: (Schister66)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one quick question there.....is the SC50 too small or the T3/60-1 too big?? I've looked at the compressor maps and they're similar, but the T3/60-1 flows a lot more air high end....</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you dont want an SC61 beause it will lag to much then stay away from the 60-1. The SC50 is a 50 trim T04E turbo, and the smallest of the SC series of T04E turbos. From what I've read on here the SC61 doesn't spool a whole lot later then the T04E57-60 trim. The SC62 spools about 500 RPM's later, not a whole lot to worry about really. You'll be able to make your goal of 300WHP with any 50-60 trim turbo, but the smaller trims wll have slightly faster spool. Check the link below to see what trim the SC turbos come in. Also check out the RX7 link to see what role trim size will play in your setup.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/...=3026
http://www.rx7club.com/printthread.php?t=345518
If you dont want an SC61 beause it will lag to much then stay away from the 60-1. The SC50 is a 50 trim T04E turbo, and the smallest of the SC series of T04E turbos. From what I've read on here the SC61 doesn't spool a whole lot later then the T04E57-60 trim. The SC62 spools about 500 RPM's later, not a whole lot to worry about really. You'll be able to make your goal of 300WHP with any 50-60 trim turbo, but the smaller trims wll have slightly faster spool. Check the link below to see what trim the SC turbos come in. Also check out the RX7 link to see what role trim size will play in your setup.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/...=3026
http://www.rx7club.com/printthread.php?t=345518
12-29-2005, 08:21 PM
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so w/ the SC50....which is like a T3T4 50trim .48 ar.....can i make around 300whp on the stock map sensor....under 11 psi??
I'm really looking to buy one of these turbos soon and that link really helped me understand the relationship between the Garretts and Precisions...
I'm really looking to buy one of these turbos soon and that link really helped me understand the relationship between the Garretts and Precisions...