BlueSi2k

ok i made this up quick so it may not be perfect. Feel free to check it out and give me feedback. This utility takes all of the time consuming equations out of plotting points on a compressor map. Its as easy as putting in some numbers and plotting the points. The compressor maps are available from the turbonetics web page. I hosted the file with geocities but i dont know how many people can d/l it before they shut it off. Feel free to host the file if you want. have fun

http://www.geocities.com/joesaccordpage/turbosizing.zip
if you nosy people decide to check out the main page of where its hosted i just want you to know that thats not my accord ;]

oh yea theres a 30 day free trial period. After 30 days you must send me turbo parts to receive an unlock key now im tired and im goin to sleep...hope this will reduce the number of "which turbo" threads.

[edit] forgot to add that this was made in visual basic 6 so the vb6 runtime files are needed...these can be found on the internet[/edit]


[Modified by BlueSi2k, 9:39 AM 7/19/2002]

ninesecrx

page doesnt work...

rjardy

yeah doesnt work for me either, fix i wana see it!


Rob

Ricky Rojales

Just copy and paste link into browser... geocities doesn't link.

Kool!


[Modified by Fluoxetine HCL, 9:13 AM 7/19/2002]

BlueSi2k

sorry guys...is there someone that can host for me?

Vu

Works for me, but I still don't know how to use it

JM Performance

looks good, but someone give me a quick rundown on what to use for volumetric efficiency.

BlueSi2k

ill try to explain how to use it but im in a hurry i gotta change my oil before work.

theres a screenshot even though you prob cant see it because image station shrinks the pics
Boost - this is kind of obvious...the boost pressure you want to run
i/c pressure drop - also obvious...the pressure drop across the i/c used to figure out the total boost put out by the turbo not the boost at the intake mani
engine speed - rpm that you want to graph for...i would start with redline and work you way down so you can see where you are on the map through the whole rpm range. keep in mind you wont be making max boost at low rpms so adjust the boost pressure accordingly
post i/c temp - the air temp after the intercooler...i felt 130 was a good number so i used that but you can change it as needed
displacement - displacement of your engine in cubic inches forget the actual conversion but i think my b16 was around 98 ci
volumetric efficiency - 90% is a good number for most modern 4cyl...but can also be changed as needed
underhood air temp - obvious...i choose 85 as an all around number you can also change that
basically to get a good idea all you need to change is the boost pressure, pressure drop, rpm, and displacement. put in multiple rpms and record the outputs...grab some compressor maps from turbonetics and start plotting! hope this helps

tmg

try this http://www.geocities.com/joesaccordpage

The_Head

Where do you click on to go to the turbo calculator from the main page?

tmg

type in "turbosizing.zip" at the end of the url.

BlueSi2k

ok yea go to the main page and just click on the image to enter and it will d/l...

oops i deleted my bros old school riced out accord page lol

The_Head

So 30 days after D/L you have to have a key or password?

BlueSi2k

no i was joking lol

but it you want to contribute turbo parts be my guest

xci_ed6

click the link, add a space after .zip, then hit go

-Dustin

boosted3g

Well i did it and it told me i should have a T66. Thats what i was planning on getting that anyway, should make for a nice street machine.

Very helpful tool, i dig it

The_Head

It has me leaning towards a T3 60 trim, or T3 super 60.

AB16A2T

Wait a second... how do I know what my cubic inches are for my motor.... D16Y8

BlueSi2k

1.6L~98CI
you multiply liters by 61.02 to get CI

piscorpio

Wow, thanks alot man, this thing is great. Crunching all the numbers on a calculator and having to check all the formulas, etc. was alot more time consuming, this makes things much easier.

BlueSi2k

no problem man...im working on a new version that will have all of turbonetics graphs and will graph all points in a given rpm range but this is turning out to be time consuming...ill keep you guys posted if i finish it

piscorpio

that would be tight. I found a bug with this one, when I alter the underhood temp. it has an error that exits the program, but it still works great otherwise.

The_Head

Yeah it does the same thing to me too, but its easy to work around...

So, what do you do with the data (Pressure ratio & Air Flow)?

Here's what I got: b16A bored out to 84 mm

RPM......Desired Boost.........PR...............Airflow

2000.........5 psi...............1.44218..........4.8277
3000........10 psi..............1.7823.............9.08
4000........14 psi..............2.0544............14.066
5000..........."......................"........... ......17.5833
6000..........."......................"........... ......21.099
7000..........."......................"........... ......24.6166
8000..........."......................"........... ......28.1333
9000..........."......................"........... ......31.64996

I think this might be the best compressor map for my figures, but i'm a n00b with these types of charts...

Do I plot these figures on a compressor graph and try to hit the "bullseye" (highest efficiency) of the compressor chart to figure out which turbo is the best for me?

I'm trying to find a turbo that will spool up @ 4000 and give me a nice big fat torque curve (225 ft lbs) from 4000 to 9000 on 1707 cc's of displacement on 14 lbs of boost. I dont think it's possible, but I'm trying to figure it out.


[Modified by xThexHeadx, 7:05 AM 7/22/2002]


[Modified by xThexHeadx, 6:29 PM 7/22/2002]

JM Performance

i doubt you can make 5psi by 2000rpm and 10 by 3000 in an b16.....but i could be wrong, its your car...

The_Head

Well, it all depends on the size of the turbo, now doesnt it?

I was looking for help...