Hulk22

whos using a 63 or 69 turbine housing and whats your spool times. helping a buddy with his setup he is looking to spool between 35-4000 rpms its a 2.2 9.5cp mini ram manifold i know that 81-84 a/r spools around 5-5500 so those who have one of these when are you seeing your spool times and what size engine thanks!

HamiltonRex

t3/t4 57trim .63ar..

Full boost around 4500 in 2nd gear... later in first.

wantboost

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holy **** is this thread vague.

spool times depend on alot of things, load on the motor, ambient temperature, ignition timing, etc.

Hulk22

not really looking for some info if you looked its on 2.2 9.5 cp mini ram manifold so if you are running on a smaller motor and are seeing boost around 4500 then on a bigger motor it should drop a few hundred rpms if not more. and then after more feedback we decide on something smaller.

wantboost

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i can change ignition timing and cam timing and completely change spool time.

96 GSR-T

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wantboost

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see... so i think you need to ask for more info. like total timing, etc

Hulk22

are you running one of these turbine housing on your setup? if not dont post. im looking for info from people who know what there talking about not naysayers. we know about changing the timing and cams but before you can start changing **** u need to know were to start waldo and your commet is welcome but thats stuff is done at the end of the
tune.

wantboost

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i i would never run a housing that small on my setup

and housing size doesnt mean **** unless we know what size turbo youre planning on running.

96 GSR-T

The turbo and the full build of the car would be benefical to this conversation. Not just bore and pistons, do you have headwork? Downpipe Size? Exhaust Size? Size of Charge Pipes? etc.....

wantboost

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very... but dont tell him that

Hulk22

yes it full biuld top and bottom nothing stock. 2.5 pipping 3inch dp. we already know he will run a good 500 rpms by running a built set up and we have the turbo we are looking for a good starting point for the turbine he want to start no earlier than 3500 and no later than 4100.


Modified by Hulk22 at 9:58 PM 7/6/2006

96 GSR-T

Oh Gawd...... someone else help this guy, he just dont seem to get it.

Hulk22

if we were not past that stage of the build i would have ask what setup and pipping size and down pipe would he need to run spools time on those housings.and you can have a 600hp car but what good is that 600 when it dosn't come in till 5-6000 rpms and the guy running 500hp starts pulling at 1000 rpms or more not only dose he get the jump but his power band will be better. but thats not to the driver dosn't have alot to do with it. unless your building a dyno queen or you car rev your car till 10000 plus your only getting 3000-4000 rpms of good power pending on shifting at 9000 rpms so if he can start around 3500-3800 thats 5500 of good power but the dyno will show us the sweet spot for shifting. and only thing i can see running anything over 81 is on the track unless you let your girl or grandma drive as a dd car and they wont see any boost because they shift way befor. so i ask can you give any positive input have you seen with your own eyes any cars run this size a/r on any turbos putting out 500-600 hp on the dyno and seen the spool times if so your input is welcome. thanks

Hulk22

get what? you two must no get it. its very simple yes i've run that housing and i see spool times at this point. or no i dont run it but ive seen it on this turbo and engine and it started around this point. the car is done no changes will be made just deciding on if one of these turbine sizes will get him into the range he wants if not then he will look at a smaller size. im not asking for someone to take a guess base on his setup but tell us what they do or done on theses sizes and if they went bigger why?

wantboost

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the housings dont ******* matter right now. without a wheel size we cant tell you **** about how a given housing will spool. a .63 ar housing will spool differently it is has a stage 3 wheel vs a stage 5............

Hulk22

its a ptrim wheel induser 2.542 ex 2.920 comp wheel in 2.720 ex3.850

96 GSR-T

You want low end powerband, buy V8, or ditch the P-Trim wheel, having a H22 helps.. Having to rev higher and having a lack of low end is what turbo Honda's are all about. A .48 housing spools fast, falls on its **** up top. A .63 has decent spool and does not fall on its pecker so much. A .83 is laggy but willpull hard up top and should keep holding torque till redline depending on the setup, all cars are different.

Oh and I cant think of a Honda that makes 600hp at 5-6000 rpm as you stated, once again buy a V-8

I have an 81.5mm GSR, Built Head, Built Bottom. Will be purchasing a BB 67mm Turbo w/ a P-Trim Wheel .82 AR. If I can get 20lb by 6k I am happier that a pig in **** cause I will shift at 9-9500 which is fine, cause in case you didnt know, when you shift at such a high rpm, your revs stay higher keeping you in the power. I could care less about getting walked on a legnth or two down low cause I am going to run you the expletive down in a hurry. Perhaps I am rambleing but I would like to help you but you are making it hard.

Hulk22

"having a H22 helps.. Having to rev higher and having a lack of low end is what turbo Honda's are all about. A .48 housing spools fast, falls on its **** up top. A .63 has decent spool and does not fall on its pecker so much. A .83 is laggy but willpull hard up top and should keep holding torque till redline depending on the setup, all cars are different." that the kinda info i was asking for so what turbo are you running now? and pending on car setup yes you can or may walk someone down but were he lives they run evos and wrxs that very quick on the low end but most fall on there face after 100mph but some are well moded so for him a long power band works best for him not a short you get from the bigger turbine housing. good luck on your new turbo setup.