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Old 07-22-2012, 06:47 AM
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Default SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

I have a 93 del sol si and im stuck with the d series and ive seen alot of good numbers come from SOHC turbo builds but my boy says just drop a type r or gsr in it and be done with it. Can anyone tell me if boosting the SOHC is a good idea.

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Absolutely not. I was stupid to boost my D-series just to get a measly 200 horsepower out of a stock block while retaining an average of 30MPG. I was stupid not to spend money to swap in a bigger engine when I had a D-series sitting right there in front of me.

Stop being a punk and listening to your boy and make up your own mind. If you're "stuck" with a D then boost it.
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Iv tuned alot of turbo d and b series cars and Ill give you my honest opinion of both.

turbo d series: great gas mileage, just tuned a turbo y7 that pulls 39/42 mpg lol. they lack out of boost power, potential on stock internals. they are great if your just looking for a bit more power but you will need to build it to make it fast (yes I know some sohcs make 240whp and last...etc) but most of the sohc turbos Iv tuned haven't been much of a adrenaline rush.

turbo b series: if you wanna go this route I choose to stay with non vtec motors cause they have the same potential on a stock block and have great power bands when turbo'd. you can make 300whp reliably out of a turbo ls or b20, the motors are plentiful and they have much stronger trannys as well. 300whp will get you in the 11's in a eg hatch.

only you can decide.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

^^

Hes comparing a boosted D to a NA swap.

personally, the $$ spent on a type r engine, swap, (axles,ECU,trans, mounts, etc..) can be used to rebuild your D series and boost it.

I would choose the built boosted D over a N/A OEM Bseries. Synchrotech has parts to rebuild the trans also.
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do what you want... anything turbo is always more fun than anything NA..
and your "boy" sounds like a typical honda fan boy
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Originally Posted by FA5_Joker
I have a 93 del sol si and im stuck with the d series and ive seen alot of good numbers come from SOHC turbo builds but my boy says just drop a type r or gsr in it and be done with it. Can anyone tell me if boosting the SOHC is a good idea.

Thank you
No, do not boost the D, its not worth it and will give you headaches...... Buy My virgin JDM type R swap with lsd bolt it in and enjoy reliable 210hp from one of the best engines Honda ever created. 3000 takes the whole swap never been installed in US with axles ecu and everything LMK I can ship its all wrapped up on the pallet it came on ready to go just waiting on you man, Listen to your boy; there is wisdom in his words and you wont have to buy hondata or aem ecu and pay a grip for someone to tune your pos D series which will make the same HP and blow up on you. But like everyone says, up to you GL either way.
Oh and BTW, Not selling to boost my d series, selling cause of a bitch *** ex wife and the subsequent divorce than followed her, thanks
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

^who are you?
and stop trolling to sell ****... this isnt the classifieds.

there are plenty of boosted sohc motors that don't blow up......
go troll craigslist
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Everyone is right. Just make up your mind and stick with it. I had d series that I was getting ready to turbo. I bought most everything for it, ready to boost. Then, I decided I wanted an NA B series and ended up with a GSR swap, so that good money I spent on D series turbo is wasted.

Now, I'm working on boosting the GSR lol. So more money and more time being invested. Oh well, gotta love it.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

i think my opinion may be biased....just read my sig
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I had a y8 (stock) in a cx hatch for a few years, then i bought a ''new'' b16a (stock)...the b16a was way more fun...iv since boosted it to 7psi and it is super fun. The cost was not very much $2000-motor, $1500ish-pieced together turbo kit with tune, not a show stopper or a race proven setup but it has been running good for some time now. I also dont beat on the car or redline it. And i know the op isnt talking about boosting a b series but i can only talk from experience....i say swap it to a B series imo
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

my first set-up was a d15b7 non-vtec sohc with a sub $1000 turbo set-up. that includes, full turbo kit, tuning, exhaust and clutch....it can be done.

gt17 turbo - 50
mani - 50
310cc injectors got on a barter = free
charge pipe + bov = 125
downpipe = 80
chip kit w/ basemap = 35
clutch = 150
exhaust = 125
street tune = 20
oil lines = 75
fmic = 50
misc hoses, fittings, clamps, fluids, et = 150

ran a best of 13.9 @ 82mph fouling the spark plugs between the 1/8th and 1000ft marker....trapped consistant 102-104

i walked circles around bolt on b-series guys

good luck finding a decent b-swap complete with EVERYTHING that will trap over a hundred for under a $1000
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

at least around where I live you can sell a d16z6 swap for like 600 bucks and pick up a full ls swap for around 800. if it came down to that Id def pick the b series over D but if where your at a ls swap costs alot then a turbo D isn't a bad option. you can't really compare a turbo sohc to a stock itr swap since the itr swap will cost what it would to make a 300whp turbo d lol.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Originally Posted by wantboost
^who are you?
and stop trolling to sell ****... this isnt the classifieds.

there are plenty of boosted sohc motors that don't blow up......
go troll craigslist
Im a guy who has spent the last 10 or so years of his life working on
honda/acura's, and have seen Way more d series with ebay turbos blow up than the N/A motors I have built, just giving my 2 cents and an option is all. Go D and turbo it dont matter long as your happy with the end results.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Originally Posted by whyareallljdms?
Im a guy who has spent the last 10 or so years of his life working on
honda/acura's, and have seen Way more d series with ebay turbos blow up than the N/A motors I have built, just giving my 2 cents and an option is all. Go D and turbo it dont matter long as your happy with the end results.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Overall, you are better off adding a turbo to a D-series. This is coming from somebody who "hates" them.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

Swap for a b20 or ls. Will be a fun reliable car. Turbo later when you get the cash.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

well thank you everyone. I have already planned out my build and got a killer deal on a
b18c5 and im going to save up for a full race kit. once again thanks everyone.
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Default Re: SOHC Boost or Swap for B Series

....i will be making 400whp for the price of that swap
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