see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo
10-08-2004, 09:06 PM
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see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo
well i have ben running my turbo that came with my drag kit wich is a turbonetics for about 2 years now on about 8-12psi, but just in these last 3 months 18psi and for about the last 2 weeks at 24psi and that when this happened, the first pics is the exhaust wheel and the other one is the inside of the compressor housing, i would just like to know what you guys think of this , cus the turbo was fine until i started running the 24psi and that when it took a crap, the exhaust wheel didnt look like that eather befor i started running 24psi, i got my money out of it so iam not mad but would just like to know y it craped out, tia
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10-08-2004, 10:00 PM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (TurblowR)
Plain and simple, overspun the turbo. B-trim T3/T4's are fairly inefficient and would have to be overspun in order to make 24psi.
10-08-2004, 10:10 PM
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dang.....i'm running 15psi on mine......i think it can take more, but damn, i dont want my turbo to look like that! they said these were capable of 400whp 
i also thought these turbos were able to to do 24psi easy! i hope this isn't true.
ne1 got a compressor map for these t3/t4b
i also thought these turbos were able to to do 24psi easy! i hope this isn't true.ne1 got a compressor map for these t3/t4b
10-08-2004, 10:16 PM
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well, the turbo was 2 years old...looks like there was a lot of play in the shaft and it wobbled and hit the inside of the turbo housing...idk, 24 psi is kinda a lot for a t3/t4...
10-08-2004, 10:37 PM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (TurblowR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurblowR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the max psi a turbonetics turbo from a drag kit could take about 18psi. correct me if im wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is the general consensus, but a guess nonetheless. Nobody is sure about the capabilities of the drag turbos.
That is the general consensus, but a guess nonetheless. Nobody is sure about the capabilities of the drag turbos.
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10-09-2004, 12:02 AM
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Re: (mattcalica)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattcalica »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...idk, 24 psi is kinda a lot for a t3/t4...</TD></TR></TABLE>
where do you get this idea from? some t3/t4s arent even efficient until 20 psi
where do you get this idea from? some t3/t4s arent even efficient until 20 psi
10-09-2004, 12:10 AM
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Re: (JDMHatch4Me)
I've been using my BB turbonetics drag gen 3 spec turbo for 4 years now. 2 of them have been at 18psi, and the turbo has seen 25psi on many occasions. Just cause one turbonetics turbo went, doesn't mean that all of them are crap.
10-09-2004, 06:55 AM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (pngfolife)
there was no shaft play when i was running it at 18psi and when i checked it befor i took it apart there was a **** ton of play so i know it had play, and the turbo was the " E " trim one , i was under the impression these turbo could run at 24psi i guess not, lol but any way time for the to4r 
10-09-2004, 11:47 AM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (SiRkid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there was no shaft play when i was running it at 18psi and when i checked it befor i took it apart there was a **** ton of play so i know it had play, and the turbo was the " E " trim one , i was under the impression these turbo could run at 24psi i guess not, lol but any way time for the to4r </TD></TR></TABLE>
I highly doubt that was an "E" trim. I don't even think Drag offered the e-trim turbos in their kits two years ago. I know the e-trim is an "option" now but an expensive one at that.
I highly doubt that was an "E" trim. I don't even think Drag offered the e-trim turbos in their kits two years ago. I know the e-trim is an "option" now but an expensive one at that.
10-09-2004, 12:52 PM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (b20turboic)
If your turbo needs to be ordered from turbonetics, then whoever is the drag distributor can have turbonetics make some changes. IE going from t3/t04b to e, or larger trim compressor etc. My turbo needed to get ordered and built, so I went with a t3/t04e instead of the b at no charge
10-09-2004, 01:26 PM
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Re: see what happens at 24psi w/ drag turbo (PureTeg420)
Can't spin to 24psi? DSM guys spin those shitty 16g's to 25psi all day, and those things are ****. Are the drag turbos water cooled? Maybe the shaft was spinning so fast it got so hot that the oil broke down and allowed the turbine to contact the housing. I had two of those turbonetics t3\to4e's and my motor spun a thrust washer and the oil pressure would drop real low, when the pressure would drop low the shaft would wobble cause it had no support from the oil, the turbine would contact the housing and it actually snapped the shaft. put an oil cooler on the feed line and im sure the turbo could spin that fast.
10-09-2004, 04:44 PM
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Re: (B18C1CYA)
wow. Lotta loads of crap in this thread.
The center beraing took a **** and showed the both the compressor and turbine who's boss. You can tell because both ends got chewed on. Normally if it's just the compressor wheel and/or housing - then it's because the BOV isn't dumping enough CFM/shift. When both ends get chewed on - it's the center bearing. Bet that shaft play is vicious right about now.
The center beraing took a **** and showed the both the compressor and turbine who's boss. You can tell because both ends got chewed on. Normally if it's just the compressor wheel and/or housing - then it's because the BOV isn't dumping enough CFM/shift. When both ends get chewed on - it's the center bearing. Bet that shaft play is vicious right about now.
10-09-2004, 10:21 PM
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Re: (B18C1CYA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the play was horable but there was no in and out play, but it was burning oil,</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, in/out play isn't gonna be very likely. If you had play in/out then you've got some turbo problems I've personally never seen or heard of, so everything's "normal" in a "catastrophic failure" kinda way. Oh yeah, if your turbo smokes (leaks oil) then let the countdown to destruction begin. You lose oil pressure where it's needed, lose lubrication and increase heat. Also remember that the oil control seals won't die unless the bearing got reamed out pretty hard in the first place. Well...live and learn.
Yeah, in/out play isn't gonna be very likely. If you had play in/out then you've got some turbo problems I've personally never seen or heard of, so everything's "normal" in a "catastrophic failure" kinda way. Oh yeah, if your turbo smokes (leaks oil) then let the countdown to destruction begin. You lose oil pressure where it's needed, lose lubrication and increase heat. Also remember that the oil control seals won't die unless the bearing got reamed out pretty hard in the first place. Well...live and learn.
10-10-2004, 06:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HONDAofPOKY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">god damn!!! Thats why I would never buy a turbonetics turbo!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good. People who can't read don't need to be buying turbos anyway.
It wasn't the turbos fault from the looks of it... 24psi and burning oil is asking alot from a 2 year old smaller t3/t4.
Good. People who can't read don't need to be buying turbos anyway.
It wasn't the turbos fault from the looks of it... 24psi and burning oil is asking alot from a 2 year old smaller t3/t4.
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