Saturate or Peak and Hold?
02-27-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (DSeriesBKilla)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSeriesBKilla »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which type of injectors are best for boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't work that way. Saturated injectors are only reliable up to a certain size (usually about 550cc). Higher flowing injectors need to be peak/hold.
It doesn't work that way. Saturated injectors are only reliable up to a certain size (usually about 550cc). Higher flowing injectors need to be peak/hold.
02-27-2006, 07:48 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (EnzoSpeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EnzoSpeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It doesn't work that way. Saturated injectors are only reliable up to a certain size (usually about 550cc). Higher flowing injectors need to be peak/hold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya what he said too.
It doesn't work that way. Saturated injectors are only reliable up to a certain size (usually about 550cc). Higher flowing injectors need to be peak/hold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya what he said too.
02-27-2006, 07:53 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (DSeriesBKilla)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSeriesBKilla »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's say I wanted some 310s....
Should I get saturate or peak/hold</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have some out of a stock jdm h22 I can sell you. I believe those are 340 if im not mistaken.
Should I get saturate or peak/hold</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have some out of a stock jdm h22 I can sell you. I believe those are 340 if im not mistaken.
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02-27-2006, 07:57 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (DSeriesBKilla)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSeriesBKilla »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's say I wanted some 310s....
Should I get saturate or peak/hold</TD></TR></TABLE>
be careful who gives you advice on this site....
what year is your car ? newer hondas use saturated injectors that do not require the addition of a resistor box.....
the reason people run peak and hold injectors are that most large injectors come in peak and hold whcih DO require a resistor box.....
if you measure the resistance of a saturated injector it will be about 12-14 ohms
peak and hold will have about 2-4....
if you run a peak and hold injector wihtout a resistor box you will fry the ecu ...
peak and hold injectors also run cooler which is another reason high flowing injectors are all peak and hold.... that precise bullshti the other ugy mentioned is esactly that ...bullshit
Should I get saturate or peak/hold</TD></TR></TABLE>
be careful who gives you advice on this site....
what year is your car ? newer hondas use saturated injectors that do not require the addition of a resistor box.....
the reason people run peak and hold injectors are that most large injectors come in peak and hold whcih DO require a resistor box.....
if you measure the resistance of a saturated injector it will be about 12-14 ohms
peak and hold will have about 2-4....
if you run a peak and hold injector wihtout a resistor box you will fry the ecu ...
peak and hold injectors also run cooler which is another reason high flowing injectors are all peak and hold.... that precise bullshti the other ugy mentioned is esactly that ...bullshit
02-27-2006, 08:07 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (D@nnY)
I've got a '99 EX Civic. I am going to be running 6 pound of boost on it in about 1.5 weeks and I would like to bump it up to 10-12 psi with tuning. What should I get?
02-27-2006, 08:35 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (DSeriesBKilla)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSeriesBKilla »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got a '99 EX Civic. I am going to be running 6 pound of boost on it in about 1.5 weeks and I would like to bump it up to 10-12 psi with tuning. What should I get?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You'll need atleast 550cc injectors. 550's are good for 350whp. If you plan on making more hp in the future then I would get the rc750 saturated injectors. The rc 750s should be good for 450whp.
What engine do you have in your car?
You'll need atleast 550cc injectors. 550's are good for 350whp. If you plan on making more hp in the future then I would get the rc750 saturated injectors. The rc 750s should be good for 450whp.
What engine do you have in your car?
02-27-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (sneakypete)
I would definitely avoid the saturated RC 750's... If you want anything over 550, I'd get peak/hold.
For anything less, get saturated. No need to fool with a resistor box if it's not necessary.
For anything less, get saturated. No need to fool with a resistor box if it's not necessary.
02-27-2006, 09:16 PM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (EnzoSpeed)
yeah let us know your power goals. that will detemine the size of injector you will need.
also for your 99 obd2 car you will need to install obd1 style clips for the injectors to plug into.
also for your 99 obd2 car you will need to install obd1 style clips for the injectors to plug into.
02-28-2006, 01:02 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (Mykizism)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mykizism »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats wrong with 750cc saturated?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've read some stories here about them failing.
Plus, RC is the only company I know of makes sats that high. I'm guessing there's a reason for that.
I've read some stories here about them failing.
Plus, RC is the only company I know of makes sats that high. I'm guessing there's a reason for that.
02-28-2006, 04:47 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (EnzoSpeed)
so if your only plannin on running 440's or 525's the saturated ones will work fine? sorry for asking this question in your thread, but im in the same spot you are with the injectors
02-28-2006, 05:58 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll need atleast 550cc injectors. 550's are good for 350whp. If you plan on making more hp in the future then I would get the rc750 saturated injectors. The rc 750s should be good for 450whp.
What engine do you have in your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see why he needs at least 550cc.
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX. I'm running 10psi on a small turbo making around 200hp.
What engine do you have in your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see why he needs at least 550cc.
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX. I'm running 10psi on a small turbo making around 200hp.
02-28-2006, 08:25 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (Everyones Hero)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you sure about that? how long have they been running? i dont think your ecu is gonna like that very much.
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you sure about that? how long have they been running? i dont think your ecu is gonna like that very much.
02-28-2006, 08:58 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (Everyones Hero)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think such an injector exists. If it did, and you were running it without a resistor box, your ECU would be dead within minutes.
I'm running DSM 310cc P&H low-impediance w/out a resistor box in my 95 EX</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think such an injector exists. If it did, and you were running it without a resistor box, your ECU would be dead within minutes.
02-28-2006, 09:27 AM
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i've had some issues tuning the saturated 750's. there a real pain in the *** at low duty cycles IMO. and i know im not the only one who think this. The largest saurated injector id buy would be a 550cc
03-01-2006, 09:08 AM
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Re: Saturate or Peak and Hold? (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You'll need atleast 550cc injectors. 550's are good for 350whp. If you plan on making more hp in the future then I would get the rc750 saturated injectors. The rc 750s should be good for 450whp.
What engine do you have in your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a D16Y8 in my car.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah let us know your power goals. that will detemine the size of injector you will need.
also for your 99 obd2 car you will need to install obd1 style clips for the injectors to plug into. </TD></TR></TABLE>
When all is said and done, I'd like to be putting about 220 to the wheels with forged internals. Let me know if this is out of reach with OBD2.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stdefhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if your only plannin on running 440's or 525's the saturated ones will work fine? sorry for asking this question in your thread, but im in the same spot you are with the injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem man, it'll probably help me out too.
You'll need atleast 550cc injectors. 550's are good for 350whp. If you plan on making more hp in the future then I would get the rc750 saturated injectors. The rc 750s should be good for 450whp.
What engine do you have in your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a D16Y8 in my car.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah let us know your power goals. that will detemine the size of injector you will need.
also for your 99 obd2 car you will need to install obd1 style clips for the injectors to plug into. </TD></TR></TABLE>
When all is said and done, I'd like to be putting about 220 to the wheels with forged internals. Let me know if this is out of reach with OBD2.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stdefhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if your only plannin on running 440's or 525's the saturated ones will work fine? sorry for asking this question in your thread, but im in the same spot you are with the injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem man, it'll probably help me out too.
