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Old 02-07-2003, 07:17 AM
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Default Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting?

i was curious if anyone has tried boring out their stock cylinder walls to 83mm and using just a blockguard while boosting? i know it would be safer to sleeve my motor but since i've got a kid on the way, that wouldn't be an option. the motor it would be performed on would be a b18b.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (shermanyang)

Bad Idea.....
Blockguards are bad.
83mm wouldn't work on stock sleeves, If it did, it wouldn't work for long.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (shermanyang)

i think the most you can bore to safely is 81.5 w/ out any problems. Boring to 83 will not last long at all guarantee you will crack your sleeves. Block guard is junk in my opinion if not welded in. It will shift on you in the block. You can install it properly all you want but it will shift and you could end up deforming your cylinder walls.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (illdezignzls)

Bad Idea.....
Blockguards are bad.
83mm wouldn't work on stock sleeves, If it did, it wouldn't work for long.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (ekb18c)

I wouldn't even bore to 83mm on a stock block for all motor. I have never had a problem with my blockguard on my 81.5mm motor but mine is set in the block about 1/4 down and what holes line up with the holes in the head gasket well.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (hybrid901)

The only problems I have ever seen with block guards that are installed correctly are cooling problems. Even though that problem has been fixed in newer designs, people still knock em. Can someone show me some proof that a blockgaurd caused their motor to break? It just seems like someone said that they were junk one day, and everyone else agreed.....not saying anyone is wrong, but no one has ever been able to show me proof...
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (shermanyang)

i know this is forced induction... but a buddy of mine has a b18c1 and is going ***** to the wall n/a. He has a darton sleeved block from his turbo days, whats the largest bore do you guys think he can go? 85mm?
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (GudeH23a)

i know this is forced induction... but a buddy of mine has a b18c1 and is going ***** to the wall n/a. He has a darton sleeved block from his turbo days, whats the largest bore do you guys think he can go? 85mm?
I think 85mm would work fine on n/a with darton sleeves.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (BoostedSi)

i think you can go 87mm all motor with golden eagle so you should be able to do the same with darton.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (MotorMatrix.com)

83mm on stock sleeves? Would there even be any sleeves left? I don't think so.

87mm sounds kinda outrageous also. I think 85 is closer to the limit, unless you arent talking street cars. I guess 86 or 87 is ok if its a serious race car where you dont mind breaking things. Someone me if I'm way off here.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (mos)

someone told me they went to 84mm on a stock ls and boosted it. they are here on HT, but cant remember the name.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (MotorMatrix.com)

i think you can go 87mm all motor with golden eagle so you should be able to do the same with darton.

I *heard* (not fact) that the Golden eagle is 87mm and the Darton is good to 88mm all motor. Im probably wrong though.
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Default Re: Safe to bore to 83mm w/blockgaurd and boosting? (MotorMatrix.com)

i think you can go 87mm all motor with golden eagle so you should be able to do the same with darton.
is there any cooling problems related to this size? Also, what about headgasket sealing problems? thanks.
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