removing grill
 

im just curious if cutton the grill out really makes that much of a difference in cooling on a fmic.
some cars look good with the bumper grill opened up and some dont.. and i really like the way a stock eg front bumper looks with the grills.

also would a thin layer of rattle can primer effect the cooling at all?

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

Yes, it will effect cooling because the grille causes drag. Your losses will probably be minimal leaving the grille though.

Painting your intercooler will not effect the efficiency [enough for you to tell]. Many people have black intercoolers.

Re: removing grill (DaX)
 

ok.. whatabout using a venturi on the turbo inlet? would that help at all.. i was thinking of having like the j's racing funnel scoop type thing in my small grill opening with the piping going into the turbo. this would be more of a scoop tho. not a venturi.. i know drag cars use venturis and thier turbos but dont know if itd have any effect ona street car.

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

Well the fact still remains, the colder and eaiser the engine can get air the more power it will put out.. The air filter on my car is right next to the intercooler and sticks out past the bumper so I always get cold(ambient) air into my turbo..

Re: removing grill (tgreaves)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the fact still remains, the colder and eaiser the engine can get air the more power it will put out.. The air filter on my car is right next to the intercooler and sticks out past the bumper so I always get cold(ambient) air into my turbo..</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea but does the 5-10 degree difference even matter on a turbo when it gets heated up anyways.

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drunknbass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yea but does the 5-10 degree difference even matter on a turbo when it gets heated up anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its still 5-10 degrees cooler than what was there before.. Unless you have to screw up your bumper to make it happen I think its worth it..

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

A velocity stack? I don't think they are very practical for street. I agree with Tgreaves...anything you can do to cool your intake charge helps. True, getting cooler air before the compressor doesn't help nearly as much as cooling the air after the compressor, but it probably still helps. Also remember if you're going to use any kind of scoop...most of those are designed for NA motors which use ram air...the turbo swallows more air than your car can "ram" into the inlet, so most scoops are pointless unless you are using it solely to channel cooler air in.

Re: removing grill (DaX)
 

thats pretty much what i figured.. i think the only way to have a velocity stack to be effecient would be have the turbo inlet forward facing and have it run straight off. i think once theres piping and bends it serves no purpose anymore

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

Which grill are you talking about? Like the OEM plastic grill that comes with the bumper?

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

I think the grill would have as much effect as painting the intercooler - slim to none.

Re: removing grill (integra-modder)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which grill are you talking about? Like the OEM plastic grill that comes with the bumper?</TD></TR></TABLE> yea.. the center plastic

Re: removing grill (drunknbass)
 

Silimar to what muck said, I think it wont have much affect. If the stock grill is flush to the IC and doesnt allow any air to travel through some sections then it will render that section of the IC useless.

In general, the IC acts like a big heat sink, especially when daily driven, and the temperature along the unit drops gradually from right to left.