Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!?
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Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!?
You may want to check out the GT-35R. We have a handful of these in stock and expect a lot more in a few months. This turbo has the same GT wheel has the SC-61, but with the Garrett dual ball bearing center section. Look for this to be able to support the same power as the SC61, but with a lot quicker spool. The ones we have in stock now are only available with the T04S cover. One note, though, we do not have an downpipe weld flange right now for this, but we will have something in the next few weeks. It shouldn't be too hard for a machine shop to fabricate something in the meantime. Thot you guys would like to know!
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Retail is $1,897.50 with the T04S compressor cover . . . less expensive for dealers.
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damn, i really like the price tag of the $775 for the regualar SC61
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damn, i really like the price tag of the $775 for the regualar SC61
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Retail is $1,897.50 with the T04S compressor cover . . . less expensive for dealers.
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WOWW!! sc61 is the way to go, more than a $1000 cheaper and it spools a little slower, oh well. Nice snail btw.
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WOWW!! sc61 is the way to go, more than a $1000 cheaper and it spools a little slower, oh well. Nice snail btw.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look for this to be able to support the same power as the SC61, but with a lot quicker spool. </TD></TR></TABLE>
can you quantify this? how much rpm realistically?
youre a nice guy if harry was sales manager i would not like precision too much (to put it nicely)
can you quantify this? how much rpm realistically?
youre a nice guy if harry was sales manager i would not like precision too much (to put it nicely)
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For the extra 1000 you could have applied that money to yur engine build and gone with a 2.2L deckplace motor, lol....im sure that will help spool.
Still a dope turbo though, and that's actually a great price on it!
Still a dope turbo though, and that's actually a great price on it!
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
I think you were talking to me about this on Monday. Good stuff though
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (0x64)
True the sc61 is 1,000 cheaper..but Id like to see the compressor maps of the garret gt35-r compared to the sc61..My understanding is that the garret flows alot more air..but I could be wrong..
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (tygsr)
you are incorrect, they are one and the same, its the CHRA and turbine wheels/housings that are diff
gt35r compressor wheel = sc61 compressor wheel
that is what the maan has been trying to say.. try searching on this topic it has been covered many many times
gt35r compressor wheel = sc61 compressor wheel
that is what the maan has been trying to say.. try searching on this topic it has been covered many many times
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (FFgeoff)
From what I've read, a ball bearing turbo will spool anywhere from 400 to 800 rpm quicker than a standard center section. There may be more to it, though. When you spin the wheel with your finger, the blades really turn quickly.
Garrett has told us at their engineering meetings that the ball bearing CHRA's are not as important as the GT Technology wheels are, which makes sense. It's the action of the exhaust energy on the blades of the wheel which gets everything going. With computational fluid design and 5-axis CNC machining, they've been able to come up with design(s) that increase the surface area which, in turn, makes for a quicker spooling turbo even without the ball bearing CHRA.
In the case of the GT35R, you get the new GT Technology aerodynamics with the dual bb center section.
Believe me, this turbo isn't for everybody, but we're happy to be able to offer it for those who want it.
Garrett has told us at their engineering meetings that the ball bearing CHRA's are not as important as the GT Technology wheels are, which makes sense. It's the action of the exhaust energy on the blades of the wheel which gets everything going. With computational fluid design and 5-axis CNC machining, they've been able to come up with design(s) that increase the surface area which, in turn, makes for a quicker spooling turbo even without the ball bearing CHRA.
In the case of the GT35R, you get the new GT Technology aerodynamics with the dual bb center section.
Believe me, this turbo isn't for everybody, but we're happy to be able to offer it for those who want it.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
that is also the impression i am under, making it that much more difficult for most enthusiasts to swallow the price tag.
thanks for being honest.
thanks for being honest.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (FFgeoff)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FFgeoff »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are incorrect, they are one and the same, its the CHRA and turbine wheels/housings that are diff
gt35r compressor wheel = sc61 compressor wheel
that is what the maan has been trying to say.. try searching on this topic it has been covered many many times</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for correcting me Geoff..you would know...
gt35r compressor wheel = sc61 compressor wheel
that is what the maan has been trying to say.. try searching on this topic it has been covered many many times</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for correcting me Geoff..you would know...
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Garrett has told us at their engineering meetings that the ball bearing CHRA's are not as important as the GT Technology wheels are, which makes sense. It's the action of the exhaust energy on the blades of the wheel which gets everything going.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is why I like the GT series turbines.
They are more efficient and you can step up an a/r size or two.
There is only 1 compressor map for the SC lineup.
Is precision ever going to compile maps for the others?
The worked housings dramatically shift the flow to the right of the graphs.
Garrett has told us at their engineering meetings that the ball bearing CHRA's are not as important as the GT Technology wheels are, which makes sense. It's the action of the exhaust energy on the blades of the wheel which gets everything going.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is why I like the GT series turbines.
They are more efficient and you can step up an a/r size or two.
There is only 1 compressor map for the SC lineup.
Is precision ever going to compile maps for the others?
The worked housings dramatically shift the flow to the right of the graphs.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Quick 200k Mile Motor)
Waiting to get our new web site up first . . .
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (Soon_2b_evil)
Correct me if im wrong but weren't the GT style turbos cheaper last year......like $1000 - 1300 ? Or are these some new ones. Im pretty sure it was the GT30 and GT35s.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (int3gra)
It really depends on the application. Getting a BB turbo for a race car is sorta silly if you ask me...your over 5000rpms the whole time anyways..so turbo lag isnt an issue. Its more money for something you dont need.
Now for a street car, the BB option might be to your liking. Personally id say its not worth the $1000 for 400rpms faster spool. At the track on race gas, 400rpms of lag isnt going to make any difference.
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Now for a street car, the BB option might be to your liking. Personally id say its not worth the $1000 for 400rpms faster spool. At the track on race gas, 400rpms of lag isnt going to make any difference.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (int3gra)
The GT35 is around $1,100 or so. There are a couple differences between the GT35 and the GT35R. That's why you will see the GT35R sells for more than the GT35.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (0x64)
I love my SC61 , I just ran 10.35 in my Colt, its heavy and an automatic tranny.
I'd say it was the best addition to my car so far. Precision kicks ***!!
Thanks Rod!!!
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I'd say it was the best addition to my car so far. Precision kicks ***!!
Thanks Rod!!!
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (evil93evo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evil93evo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love my SC61 , I just ran 10.35 in my Colt, its heavy and an automatic tranny.
I'd say it was the best addition to my car so far. Precision kicks ***!!
Thanks Rod!!!
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Yup they do. Just ask Jotech what they think.
art
I'd say it was the best addition to my car so far. Precision kicks ***!!
Thanks Rod!!!
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Yup they do. Just ask Jotech what they think.
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Re: Ready For A SC61 Ball Bearing Turbo??!? (liam821)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It really depends on the application. Getting a BB turbo for a race car is sorta silly if you ask me...your over 5000rpms the whole time anyways..so turbo lag isnt an issue. Its more money for something you dont need.
Now for a street car, the BB option might be to your liking. Personally id say its not worth the $1000 for 400rpms faster spool. At the track on race gas, 400rpms of lag isnt going to make any difference.
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Actually, a ball bearing turbo is very important in drag racing when you have a very large turbo. Transient response time is the time it takes the turbo to come on again after a shift. Ball bearing center sections help this a lot!
Now for a street car, the BB option might be to your liking. Personally id say its not worth the $1000 for 400rpms faster spool. At the track on race gas, 400rpms of lag isnt going to make any difference.
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Actually, a ball bearing turbo is very important in drag racing when you have a very large turbo. Transient response time is the time it takes the turbo to come on again after a shift. Ball bearing center sections help this a lot!