Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200
03-05-2003, 12:46 PM
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Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200
So, I determined that the Hondata had the eeprom in backwards when I bought it, so...
Went to Jotech today and Tony burned a new base map to a new chip since we found that the old one was fried. Get home, car still won't start. Check S200 box, the LED is doing the slow blink.
Now, when the eeprom was backwards, the car would start in limp mode and the Hondata LED was on solid.
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
Went to Jotech today and Tony burned a new base map to a new chip since we found that the old one was fried. Get home, car still won't start. Check S200 box, the LED is doing the slow blink.
Now, when the eeprom was backwards, the car would start in limp mode and the Hondata LED was on solid.
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
03-05-2003, 01:09 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Get a spare ecu and try the stuff on that.
I have a PR4 you could borrow to test. The O2 heater circuit on the ecu is fried so you will get a o2 sensor cel, but it wont go into limp mode. Its already chipped.
edit: I run P75 programs in my PR4... they are compatible.
[Modified by UberTeg, 10:12 PM 3/5/2003]
I have a PR4 you could borrow to test. The O2 heater circuit on the ecu is fried so you will get a o2 sensor cel, but it wont go into limp mode. Its already chipped.
edit: I run P75 programs in my PR4... they are compatible.
[Modified by UberTeg, 10:12 PM 3/5/2003]
03-05-2003, 01:15 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Now, when the eeprom was backwards, the car would start in limp mode and the Hondata LED was on solid.
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
if it was i dont think the light would be solid.
The mark on the eeprom should be toward the ecu plugs.
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (boosted hybrid)
Yeah, I've got a P75 and the CEL is on, but doesn't it stay on all the time if the ignition is ON but the car is not running?
Steve, yeah, the #1 pin (or notch in chip however you like to look at it) was facing away from the ECU plugs when I got it. That's why I fried my chip, because I didn't think to look at the manual and swapped the chips, plugging the new one in the same way the old one was.
[Modified by Hatchblack, 10:16 PM 3/5/2003]
Steve, yeah, the #1 pin (or notch in chip however you like to look at it) was facing away from the ECU plugs when I got it. That's why I fried my chip, because I didn't think to look at the manual and swapped the chips, plugging the new one in the same way the old one was.
[Modified by Hatchblack, 10:16 PM 3/5/2003]
03-05-2003, 01:29 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Yeah, I've got a P75 and the CEL is on, but doesn't it stay on all the time if the ignition is ON but the car is not running?
03-05-2003, 01:44 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (UberTeg)
I used to get it to start in limp when the eeprom was backwards (before I knew it was) but cut J1 and still nothing. Jesus Christ...where is my FMU when I need it...
03-05-2003, 01:52 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
It could be the eeprom itself.
Go back and ask Tony to reburn the chip and to reburn it a 2nd time. I find that sometimes the eeprom doesn't get written the first time on the pocket programmer that is why I usually burn it two times.
HTH
edit- please make sure the notch of the chip is facing the ecu plugs.
[Modified by ekb18c, 2:56 PM 3/5/2003]
Go back and ask Tony to reburn the chip and to reburn it a 2nd time. I find that sometimes the eeprom doesn't get written the first time on the pocket programmer that is why I usually burn it two times.
HTH
edit- please make sure the notch of the chip is facing the ecu plugs.
[Modified by ekb18c, 2:56 PM 3/5/2003]
03-05-2003, 01:56 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (ekb18c)
It could be the eeprom itself.
Go back and ask Tony to reburn the chip and to reburn it a 2nd time. I find that sometimes the eeprom doesn't get written the first time on the pocket programmer that is why I usually burn it two times.
HTH
Go back and ask Tony to reburn the chip and to reburn it a 2nd time. I find that sometimes the eeprom doesn't get written the first time on the pocket programmer that is why I usually burn it two times.
HTH
Its saved my *** many times, heh.
03-05-2003, 01:58 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (UberTeg)
Yeah..I'm getting the Batronix eventually...nice $30 burner....better than the $150 PP2 that Hondata sells for $180
03-05-2003, 02:00 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (ekb18c)
This sounds very similar to when i got some bad eeproms awhile back. I got three of them. I was going crazy trying to figure out what was going, finally i borrowed a friends extra eeprom and ever thing was fine again.
BTW, I asked about your ecu because i tested Prophet's last saturday and the actual ecu was bad. It was one of the p28's with the obd-2 interface on the ecu.
BTW, I asked about your ecu because i tested Prophet's last saturday and the actual ecu was bad. It was one of the p28's with the obd-2 interface on the ecu.
03-05-2003, 02:05 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Yeah, I've got a P75 and the CEL is on, but doesn't it stay on all the time if the ignition is ON but the car is not running?
[Modified by Hatchblack, 10:16 PM 3/5/2003]
[Modified by Hatchblack, 10:16 PM 3/5/2003]
03-05-2003, 02:09 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
hmm Batronix checks and verifies that the chip has been written 100%??
hmmm interesting!
Anymore info on this burner? A link would help.
Thanks!
hmmm interesting!
Anymore info on this burner? A link would help.
Thanks!
03-05-2003, 02:12 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (ekb18c)
Industry secrets right here...
http://batronix.com/electronic/e-shop.shtml
My PIC16PRO that I used to make PSX modchips with auto verifies also...too bad the 29C256 is not one of the few EEPROMs that it supports!
http://batronix.com/electronic/e-shop.shtml
My PIC16PRO that I used to make PSX modchips with auto verifies also...too bad the 29C256 is not one of the few EEPROMs that it supports!
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Industry secrets right here...
http://batronix.com/electronic/e-shop.shtml
My PIC16PRO that I used to make PSX modchips with auto verifies also...too bad the 29C256 is not one of the few EEPROMs that it supports!
http://batronix.com/electronic/e-shop.shtml
My PIC16PRO that I used to make PSX modchips with auto verifies also...too bad the 29C256 is not one of the few EEPROMs that it supports!
edit: if you buy the batronix, spend the extra $8 for the ZIF socket! I would go insane w/out it!
Also put a ZIF socket on your ecu.[Modified by UberTeg, 11:17 PM 3/5/2003]
03-05-2003, 02:22 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (UberTeg)
Yeah I know it does, I was talking about my burner, the PIC16PRO...made for PICs but it supports some EEPROMs also.
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Hatchblack)
Have you tried cutting J12 on the ECU? Hondata mentioned about the ECU communication issue with the S200, and the slow blinking LED is one of the indications.
s200 connection issues
If you experience problems with a s200 unit maintaining an intermittent connection with the ECU, then cutting J12 in the ECU may solve the problem. The symptoms of this problem is the light on the s200 starting to flash slowly once the s200 has already established a connection with the ECU. A 4000 rpm rev limit may be experienced.
If you experience problems with a s200 unit maintaining an intermittent connection with the ECU, then cutting J12 in the ECU may solve the problem. The symptoms of this problem is the light on the s200 starting to flash slowly once the s200 has already established a connection with the ECU. A 4000 rpm rev limit may be experienced.
03-05-2003, 04:20 PM
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Re: Rasa frasa ricka fricka HONDATA S200 (Tinker219)
Hondata manual says that this is a communication problem between the Hondata and ECU, either the ROM is incorrect or is installed backwards. Well, it's neither of these, so WTF do I do now?
Bend over and get AEM EMS....