1baddcivicsi

i have a b16 si turbo with an msd sci & ex. coil, it ran fine for a few runs and it just died, i tested the plugs and there fine, but im getting no spark. i disconnected the msd and installed my stock ignition and it still just cranks, cranks and cranks.
i need some help??????

Dollar_bill

you might have a bad igniter, hope this helps.good luck

BoostedEG6

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If he is running a MSD box and an external coil then the igniter would matter.... because the box and coil take over the igniters job

The blaster SS coils are junk. I have personally had 5 of them go bad on me with in a couple of weeks so I upgraded to the Digital 7 and HVCII coil and haven’t had a problem sense.

1baddcivicsi

so what do i need 2 do???

1baddcivicsi

but i installed the stock in. coil and it still doesnt start

BoostedEG6

ok so you disconnected the external coil and box, wired the igniter back up and made sure everything was in the correct location and all the distributor wires where connected?

Have you tried any other distributors?

1baddcivicsi

stock distributor, wires are correct, and 1 degree cooler ngk plugs have been installed

1baddcivicsi

also checked my ign. coil fuse and that is good to

DRAGLS

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If he is running a MSD box and an external coil then the igniter would matter.... because the box and coil take over the igniters job
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You bypass the ignitor when you use a msd?

1baddcivicsi

yes, i had my msd running fine, then i turbo'd it, and ran good for a few tunes, then it just died while we were getting on it. but the msd worked great before. i installed the stock internal coil and it still doesnt start.

DRAGLS

How do you bypass the ignitor? I have a msd installed on my integra and I didn't see anywhere on the manual saying how to bypass it. So mine is still hooked up.

1baddcivicsi

i believe by taking out the stock in. coil, installing the + and - wires to the msd, is that what u are getting at???

DRAGLS

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Thats not bypassing the ignitor.


btw- try a different ignitor that is most likely your problem.

BoostedEG6

yes when you install the external coil you take the + and - wires to the external coil that bypass' the igniter

DRAGLS

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Your kidding right?


I gotta ask, do you even know what&where the ignitor is?

1baddcivicsi

actually i thought that the igniter, was the in. coil??? i dunno, now that u told me what it was, how do i bypass the ingiter??

DRAGLS

A standalone system will let you bypass it.$$$$


No, the ignitor is the little box at the bottom with 4 wires hooked up to it.

1baddcivicsi

i have an AEM EMS, that is what you were talking about

DRAGLS

you have the aem ems get the cdi unit and run cop set up.

1baddcivicsi

i have not come acrossed that on my ems but im sure i can find it.

BoostedEG6

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Your kidding right?


I gotta ask, do you even know what&where the ignitor is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes I know what it is..... I had a brain fart .. bear with me its 2am here in baghdad

DRAGLS

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yes I know what it is..... I had a brain fart .. bear with me its 2am here in baghdad
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Sorry dude


My brother just came back from there a week ago.

1baddcivicsi

i'd be willing to bet that its my igniter thats bad, becuase my msd and my stock ignition are both not firing. but i think the aem is a couple hundred $

boosted k20

most likely the ignitior. i had a car do that same thing while tuning. replacing the ignitor, the car started right up

1baddcivicsi

u know how much $ the igniter costs??