Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing....
07-14-2008, 12:44 PM
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Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing....
My car is making 540 whp on 21 psi and 507 on 19 psi right now. I ran at the track at 19 psi, so I should have been around 500 whp give or take since it was pretty hot and humid. The car ran a 13.100 at 116.70 mph, which isn't too shabby considering the 205 street tires (2.2 60') and my first time EVER running the car.
I had gapped my spark plugs to .030 trying to see if I could get rid of some hesistation, and I am thinking that might be my problem right now. When I hit 3rd gear, the car starting missing as it was going up the rpm's and obviously because of that, it wasn't hitting above like 10psi or redlining as fast as it should. The same went for 4th gear. I'm thinking I might have too much of a gap and the boost was blowing out the spark? Is this a common thing for you guys?
I haven't bought new plugs and set a tighter gap yet, the car has been sitting since, but I plan on running again this Friday with fresh plugs. I should have been mid-low 12's at like 125 mph with that time, based off what I did run with the motor cutting in and out once I hit 3rd....
Thoughts? The dizzy is brand new 8 months ago and wasn't a problem before (ie before I boosted the car), the car tuned fine, new plug wires, etc. I hardly ever drive the car to redline past 2nd gear, so that's why I didn't notice it till I went to the track...
I had gapped my spark plugs to .030 trying to see if I could get rid of some hesistation, and I am thinking that might be my problem right now. When I hit 3rd gear, the car starting missing as it was going up the rpm's and obviously because of that, it wasn't hitting above like 10psi or redlining as fast as it should. The same went for 4th gear. I'm thinking I might have too much of a gap and the boost was blowing out the spark? Is this a common thing for you guys?
I haven't bought new plugs and set a tighter gap yet, the car has been sitting since, but I plan on running again this Friday with fresh plugs. I should have been mid-low 12's at like 125 mph with that time, based off what I did run with the motor cutting in and out once I hit 3rd....
Thoughts? The dizzy is brand new 8 months ago and wasn't a problem before (ie before I boosted the car), the car tuned fine, new plug wires, etc. I hardly ever drive the car to redline past 2nd gear, so that's why I didn't notice it till I went to the track...
07-14-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
for what its worth we start the plug gap in our race engines @ .020 and go smaller from there.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (DaveF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for what its worth we start the plug gap in our race engines @ .020 and go smaller from there. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea when it was tuned, there was almost no gap at all and it ran great, but due to some electrical issues (my fault) we were unable to street tune the car, so I had some slight hesistations while street driving. I thought maybe giving them more gap might help some. I am planning to re-tune this fall once things settle down.
Thanks for the input. I am running again this wednesday hoping for some mid-low 12 second passes on these 205's haha. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to as long as the car constantly is accelerating and building boost consistantly.
Yea when it was tuned, there was almost no gap at all and it ran great, but due to some electrical issues (my fault) we were unable to street tune the car, so I had some slight hesistations while street driving. I thought maybe giving them more gap might help some. I am planning to re-tune this fall once things settle down.
Thanks for the input. I am running again this wednesday hoping for some mid-low 12 second passes on these 205's haha. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to as long as the car constantly is accelerating and building boost consistantly.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
Just curious is traction whats limiting you to run 11s? Or is it torque?
Cause most cars that have ~500hp that I hear of can run 11s.
Like the z06 7.0l, sure its got a lot more torque but its also heavier
than your car by a lot I would assume.
Cause most cars that have ~500hp that I hear of can run 11s.
Like the z06 7.0l, sure its got a lot more torque but its also heavier
than your car by a lot I would assume.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
1) try tightening up the gap.
2) put in a new Honda igniter.
3) new coil,internal or external.
Thats my sequence of part swapping.
2) put in a new Honda igniter.
3) new coil,internal or external.
Thats my sequence of part swapping.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (Re3irth)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Re3irth »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious is traction whats limiting you to run 11s? Or is it torque?
Cause most cars that have ~500hp that I hear of can run 11s.
Like the z06 7.0l, sure its got a lot more torque but its also heavier
than your car by a lot I would assume.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well in our cars man, torque really kills more than helps unless your running some nice size slicks. Our cars are so light you don't need the same torque to get the car moving that those heavier V8's do. I'm at 507/320 right now and thats a mid - 11 second car on drag radials. I should be low 12's on street tires once I get her running right.
I personally am running Neptune with the RTP board with the new boost by gear/rpm, which is dialed in pretty well and keepign me from spinning a whole lot. I honestly think I could cut a 2.0 60' with these street tires with some more track time.
Those Z06's are an amazing car for the price IMO. Your talking a stock 10 second car with slicks for $50,000 used right now. I know most of us can't afford that, but for the look and power, its a great American car. And its not much heavier than my car now with Turbo man...I've added probably 120 lbs onto my car, so a stock ITR plus 150 ~2700 lbs. I think a Z06 is like 3200 lbs and its RWD. I would need about 600-620 whp to run what a stock Z06 is capable of unless I got rid of some interior weight. I'm full interior right now.
But there's a lot more that goes into 1/4 mile times than just power. Suspension is a big part, proper size tires, psi in the tires, where your making power on your curve, etc. Takes some time to really dial a car in. I could have a 800whp car that runs 14's if I couldn't drive lol
Modified by totsie7944 at 9:53 PM 7/14/2008
Cause most cars that have ~500hp that I hear of can run 11s.
Like the z06 7.0l, sure its got a lot more torque but its also heavier
than your car by a lot I would assume.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well in our cars man, torque really kills more than helps unless your running some nice size slicks. Our cars are so light you don't need the same torque to get the car moving that those heavier V8's do. I'm at 507/320 right now and thats a mid - 11 second car on drag radials. I should be low 12's on street tires once I get her running right.
I personally am running Neptune with the RTP board with the new boost by gear/rpm, which is dialed in pretty well and keepign me from spinning a whole lot. I honestly think I could cut a 2.0 60' with these street tires with some more track time.
Those Z06's are an amazing car for the price IMO. Your talking a stock 10 second car with slicks for $50,000 used right now. I know most of us can't afford that, but for the look and power, its a great American car. And its not much heavier than my car now with Turbo man...I've added probably 120 lbs onto my car, so a stock ITR plus 150 ~2700 lbs. I think a Z06 is like 3200 lbs and its RWD. I would need about 600-620 whp to run what a stock Z06 is capable of unless I got rid of some interior weight. I'm full interior right now.
But there's a lot more that goes into 1/4 mile times than just power. Suspension is a big part, proper size tires, psi in the tires, where your making power on your curve, etc. Takes some time to really dial a car in. I could have a 800whp car that runs 14's if I couldn't drive lol
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well in our cars man, torque really kills more than helps unless your running some nice size slicks. Our cars are so light you don't need the same torque to get the car moving that those heavier V8's do. I'm at 507/320 right now and thats a mid - 11 second car on drag radials. I should be low 12's on street tires once I get her running right.
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What are you driving, a prelude?
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What are you driving, a prelude?
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (SovXietday)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What are you driving, a prelude?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Integra Type R.... why?
What are you driving, a prelude?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Integra Type R.... why?
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Integra Type R.... why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because 500whp in an Integra/Civic should be more than enough for 10s. Heck 600 is 9s terriroty for the lighter cars.
Either way, 116 is way low traps for 500+whp Type R.
Because 500whp in an Integra/Civic should be more than enough for 10s. Heck 600 is 9s terriroty for the lighter cars.
Either way, 116 is way low traps for 500+whp Type R.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (SovXietday)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Because 500whp in an Integra/Civic should be more than enough for 10s. Heck 600 is 9s terriroty for the lighter cars.
Either way, 116 is way low traps for 500+whp Type R.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well like I said, I am full interior, ie spare tire, etc, on 205 street tires, and the car was not running correctly. I fully expect to run a 125+ mph once I eliminate the mis-fire. I will take out the backseat, tire, and jack this time to just to help out a little bit with the weight of the turbo kit
Because 500whp in an Integra/Civic should be more than enough for 10s. Heck 600 is 9s terriroty for the lighter cars.
Either way, 116 is way low traps for 500+whp Type R.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well like I said, I am full interior, ie spare tire, etc, on 205 street tires, and the car was not running correctly. I fully expect to run a 125+ mph once I eliminate the mis-fire. I will take out the backseat, tire, and jack this time to just to help out a little bit with the weight of the turbo kit
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well like I said, I am full interior, ie spare tire, etc, on 205 street tires, and the car was not running correctly. I fully expect to run a 125+ mph once I eliminate the mis-fire. I will take out the backseat, tire, and jack this time to just to help out a little bit with the weight of the turbo kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
My teg is 2700+ w/ me in it and with around 450-475whp I trapped 128 heatsoaked all to hell on a 90deg day with 185/65/14" kelly **** tires, didnt even floor it until 4th gear....... you have to get your issue worked out, 500+whp should put you in the 130's.
BTW I had my plugs gapped around .022 and around 17psi on the dyno we were getting blowout, now my plugs are gapped at .017 and it fires clean, gap them plugs wayy down.
Well like I said, I am full interior, ie spare tire, etc, on 205 street tires, and the car was not running correctly. I fully expect to run a 125+ mph once I eliminate the mis-fire. I will take out the backseat, tire, and jack this time to just to help out a little bit with the weight of the turbo kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
My teg is 2700+ w/ me in it and with around 450-475whp I trapped 128 heatsoaked all to hell on a 90deg day with 185/65/14" kelly **** tires, didnt even floor it until 4th gear....... you have to get your issue worked out, 500+whp should put you in the 130's.
BTW I had my plugs gapped around .022 and around 17psi on the dyno we were getting blowout, now my plugs are gapped at .017 and it fires clean, gap them plugs wayy down.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (96 GSR-T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My teg is 2700+ w/ me in it and with around 450-475whp I trapped 128 heatsoaked all to hell on a 90deg day with 185/65/14" kelly **** tires, didnt even floor it until 4th gear....... you have to get your issue worked out, 500+whp should put you in the 130's.
BTW I had my plugs gapped around .022 and around 17psi on the dyno we were getting blowout, now my plugs are gapped at .017 and it fires clean, gap them plugs wayy down.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know my mph should def be about 125+ mph, just need to get the car to build the boost its been tuned on. I will get some new plugs and gap them much tighter than I have now. I'll try .020 first and have an extra set of plugs with me at the track just in case. I'll report back after this Wednesday and let you know how she went.
My teg is 2700+ w/ me in it and with around 450-475whp I trapped 128 heatsoaked all to hell on a 90deg day with 185/65/14" kelly **** tires, didnt even floor it until 4th gear....... you have to get your issue worked out, 500+whp should put you in the 130's.
BTW I had my plugs gapped around .022 and around 17psi on the dyno we were getting blowout, now my plugs are gapped at .017 and it fires clean, gap them plugs wayy down.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know my mph should def be about 125+ mph, just need to get the car to build the boost its been tuned on. I will get some new plugs and gap them much tighter than I have now. I'll try .020 first and have an extra set of plugs with me at the track just in case. I'll report back after this Wednesday and let you know how she went.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
dang it... the time is a bit off...
im currently on 10psi ( around 300whp) on some falken zeix 205 and i ran 13.0 at 115mph all day
you sould be in the 11's with 500whp....
i also had problem's like that but i fixed it with a new dizzy....
post up ur new times.....GL
im currently on 10psi ( around 300whp) on some falken zeix 205 and i ran 13.0 at 115mph all day
you sould be in the 11's with 500whp....
i also had problem's like that but i fixed it with a new dizzy....
post up ur new times.....GL
07-15-2008, 07:46 AM
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Those Z06's are an amazing car for the price IMO. Your talking a stock 10 second car with slicks for $50,000 used right now. I know most of us can't afford that, but for the look and power, its a great American car. And its not much heavier than my car now with Turbo man...I've added probably 120 lbs onto my car, so a stock ITR plus 150 ~2700 lbs. I think a Z06 is like 3200 lbs and its RWD. I would need about 600-620 whp to run what a stock Z06 is capable of unless I got rid of some interior weight. I'm full interior right now.
But there's a lot more that goes into 1/4 mile times than just power. Suspension is a big part, proper size tires, psi in the tires, where your making power on your curve, etc. Takes some time to really dial a car in. I could have a 800whp car that runs 14's if I couldn't drive lol
Modified by totsie7944 at 9:53 PM 7/14/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
My very good friend has a C6 Z06...the car is amazing...he has ran a 11.3@126.89 on street tires...but the problem most people come into is the car has no cage or any safety equiptment to go faster than 11.49...so he has been kicked out of our local track forever...or untill the car has the safety equiptment which it will never have because he does not want to ruin the car...he has no doubt that the car could do 10's on drag radials...we weighed his car without him in it and it weighed 2950...and my car with my in it on the same scale weighed 2700 <- Full interior 94 gsr...he put down 473whp and like 475tq on a dynojet...he traps 125-127mph...
as far as your time and mph...not too bad your first day...my first time on my setup was a 13.5@115.67...after 3 runs i had it down to a 12.9@115.37...after a few nights of practice i eventully got it down to a 12.8@115 10psi pump gas......and now my personal best on street tires has been 12.57@120 2.162 60ft...i have cut 2.0 60's before...setup is a stock gsr turbo 12psi 57 trim on E85....tires are nitto neo gens 205/50/15's..these tires are really good for what they are...not many people can cut 2.0 6ft's on bare street tires...
now it does sound like to me that your problem is in the spark plugs..weather they are fouled out or most likely gapped too big...but you know that already...my car has done the same thing before...but that was due to fouled out plugs...im sure you problem is the gapp is too big...
at 507whp i say youd be pretty close to 130mph...my friend put down 460whp in a DC2 and ran a 11.8@127 on drag radials...but his car weighed a bit less than yours...so given the power you have id say it would be closer to 128-132mph...but many factors can change that... i dont know where you can revv your car to but i hit my 8400 rev limit crossing the line and trapped 120 on 205/50/15's...depending on what tranny and where you can revv the car might affect if you need to shift into 5th or not...hopefully you dont need to...you loose alot of trap from that...
let us know how it all goes...
Those Z06's are an amazing car for the price IMO. Your talking a stock 10 second car with slicks for $50,000 used right now. I know most of us can't afford that, but for the look and power, its a great American car. And its not much heavier than my car now with Turbo man...I've added probably 120 lbs onto my car, so a stock ITR plus 150 ~2700 lbs. I think a Z06 is like 3200 lbs and its RWD. I would need about 600-620 whp to run what a stock Z06 is capable of unless I got rid of some interior weight. I'm full interior right now.
But there's a lot more that goes into 1/4 mile times than just power. Suspension is a big part, proper size tires, psi in the tires, where your making power on your curve, etc. Takes some time to really dial a car in. I could have a 800whp car that runs 14's if I couldn't drive lol
Modified by totsie7944 at 9:53 PM 7/14/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
My very good friend has a C6 Z06...the car is amazing...he has ran a 11.3@126.89 on street tires...but the problem most people come into is the car has no cage or any safety equiptment to go faster than 11.49...so he has been kicked out of our local track forever...or untill the car has the safety equiptment which it will never have because he does not want to ruin the car...he has no doubt that the car could do 10's on drag radials...we weighed his car without him in it and it weighed 2950...and my car with my in it on the same scale weighed 2700 <- Full interior 94 gsr...he put down 473whp and like 475tq on a dynojet...he traps 125-127mph...
as far as your time and mph...not too bad your first day...my first time on my setup was a 13.5@115.67...after 3 runs i had it down to a 12.9@115.37...after a few nights of practice i eventully got it down to a 12.8@115 10psi pump gas......and now my personal best on street tires has been 12.57@120 2.162 60ft...i have cut 2.0 60's before...setup is a stock gsr turbo 12psi 57 trim on E85....tires are nitto neo gens 205/50/15's..these tires are really good for what they are...not many people can cut 2.0 6ft's on bare street tires...
now it does sound like to me that your problem is in the spark plugs..weather they are fouled out or most likely gapped too big...but you know that already...my car has done the same thing before...but that was due to fouled out plugs...im sure you problem is the gapp is too big...
at 507whp i say youd be pretty close to 130mph...my friend put down 460whp in a DC2 and ran a 11.8@127 on drag radials...but his car weighed a bit less than yours...so given the power you have id say it would be closer to 128-132mph...but many factors can change that... i dont know where you can revv your car to but i hit my 8400 rev limit crossing the line and trapped 120 on 205/50/15's...depending on what tranny and where you can revv the car might affect if you need to shift into 5th or not...hopefully you dont need to...you loose alot of trap from that...
let us know how it all goes...
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (gringotegra)
Does the car have a wideband? That should tell you pretty quickly whether its a tune issue or ignition.
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The plugs were gapped around 0.017~0.018 when i tuned the car. The car was having major issues on the dyno with misfiring with the plug gap any looser so it doesnt surprise me that its doing it at the track. Gap the plugs tighter and the issue will go away. The car will easily go 130 mph + at the track with the power that it made.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (boosted hybrid)
If you made >500whp on a .018" gap, WHY would you run a larger gap? Fuel off-track economy? Seriously, stop applying NA power-making techniques to a high-HP boosted car. 
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (HiProfile)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you made >500whp on a .018" gap, WHY would you run a larger gap? Fuel off-track economy? Seriously, stop applying NA power-making techniques to a high-HP boosted car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That wasn't my intention man, just was trying to get rid of a street driving hesitation, I was at fault for trying it and not correcting before running it. Its just my first turbo build so I didn't even know about the chance of blowing out the spark with that large of a gap. Still learning!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does the car have a wideband? That should tell you pretty quickly whether its a tune issue or ignition.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea I have a wideband. Tune is spot on, fuel pressure, etc. Its about 11.0-11.5 under boost.
As Jeff said, the car was running beautifully on the dyno and following that. I had caused some electrical issues when I switched the battery to the trunk, that I later fixed but was having a bit of hesitation while street driving, which is why I tried adjusting the gap. I am swaping out plugs tomorrow and running again at Cecil. Unfortunately on a stock ITR tranny, I will probably have to shift to 5th at 130 mph, despite a 9500 rpm redline. I was hitting 117 mph with the car mis firing pretty badly as soon as I hit 3rd.
If I had to guess I should have ran a low 12 on my last run, as the car was pulling very hard, but ran a 13.2 because of the misfire issue. I will report back tomorrow night. Thanks for your thoughts guys.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That wasn't my intention man, just was trying to get rid of a street driving hesitation, I was at fault for trying it and not correcting before running it. Its just my first turbo build so I didn't even know about the chance of blowing out the spark with that large of a gap. Still learning!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does the car have a wideband? That should tell you pretty quickly whether its a tune issue or ignition.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea I have a wideband. Tune is spot on, fuel pressure, etc. Its about 11.0-11.5 under boost.
As Jeff said, the car was running beautifully on the dyno and following that. I had caused some electrical issues when I switched the battery to the trunk, that I later fixed but was having a bit of hesitation while street driving, which is why I tried adjusting the gap. I am swaping out plugs tomorrow and running again at Cecil. Unfortunately on a stock ITR tranny, I will probably have to shift to 5th at 130 mph, despite a 9500 rpm redline. I was hitting 117 mph with the car mis firing pretty badly as soon as I hit 3rd.
If I had to guess I should have ran a low 12 on my last run, as the car was pulling very hard, but ran a 13.2 because of the misfire issue. I will report back tomorrow night. Thanks for your thoughts guys.
07-16-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (totsie7944)
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That wasn't my intention man, just was trying to get rid of a street driving hesitation, I was at fault for trying it and not correcting before running it. Its just my first turbo build so I didn't even know about the chance of blowing out the spark with that large of a gap. Still learning!
Yea I have a wideband. Tune is spot on, fuel pressure, etc. Its about 11.0-11.5 under boost.
As Jeff said, the car was running beautifully on the dyno and following that. I had caused some electrical issues when I switched the battery to the trunk, that I later fixed but was having a bit of hesitation while street driving, which is why I tried adjusting the gap. I am swaping out plugs tomorrow and running again at Cecil. Unfortunately on a stock ITR tranny, I will probably have to shift to 5th at 130 mph, despite a 9500 rpm redline. I was hitting 117 mph with the car mis firing pretty badly as soon as I hit 3rd.
If I had to guess I should have ran a low 12 on my last run, as the car was pulling very hard, but ran a 13.2 because of the misfire issue. I will report back tomorrow night. Thanks for your thoughts guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Going to Cecil tomorrow eh...... lets line em up, ill be there running.
I should be using slicks but I dont have extended studs so its the fresh set of BFG 225/50/15's I will be using.
BTW B16 tranny here and I crossed the traps at 130 @ 9100rpm with 23.5" tires (185/65/14's), dont know if thats relevant to you or not, not sure of your tire size.
That wasn't my intention man, just was trying to get rid of a street driving hesitation, I was at fault for trying it and not correcting before running it. Its just my first turbo build so I didn't even know about the chance of blowing out the spark with that large of a gap. Still learning!
Yea I have a wideband. Tune is spot on, fuel pressure, etc. Its about 11.0-11.5 under boost.
As Jeff said, the car was running beautifully on the dyno and following that. I had caused some electrical issues when I switched the battery to the trunk, that I later fixed but was having a bit of hesitation while street driving, which is why I tried adjusting the gap. I am swaping out plugs tomorrow and running again at Cecil. Unfortunately on a stock ITR tranny, I will probably have to shift to 5th at 130 mph, despite a 9500 rpm redline. I was hitting 117 mph with the car mis firing pretty badly as soon as I hit 3rd.
If I had to guess I should have ran a low 12 on my last run, as the car was pulling very hard, but ran a 13.2 because of the misfire issue. I will report back tomorrow night. Thanks for your thoughts guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Going to Cecil tomorrow eh...... lets line em up, ill be there running.
I should be using slicks but I dont have extended studs so its the fresh set of BFG 225/50/15's I will be using.BTW B16 tranny here and I crossed the traps at 130 @ 9100rpm with 23.5" tires (185/65/14's), dont know if thats relevant to you or not, not sure of your tire size.
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Re: Ran car at the track, 3rd and 4th gear were missing.... (96 GSR-T)
Well guys, I did better haha. Re-gapping the plugs tighter fixed the hesistation issue, so the car was running great. It was overheating and fully heat soaked from an hour drive to the track.
And with wheel hop and not being able to get it in 2nd gear most the night, I managed to run a 12.9 at 126 mph my last run with a 2.4 60" lol
I am going to head up again next week and let it sit and cool down for about an hour before the track opens. I shaved another .2 off my time with a worse 60', so that tells me that with more seat time I can def get her in the low 12's on street tires.
And with wheel hop and not being able to get it in 2nd gear most the night, I managed to run a 12.9 at 126 mph my last run with a 2.4 60" lol
I am going to head up again next week and let it sit and cool down for about an hour before the track opens. I shaved another .2 off my time with a worse 60', so that tells me that with more seat time I can def get her in the low 12's on street tires.
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let me no next time you guys are going to run id love to watch i am about 45 mins away i got a stock block lsvtec tho and jdm 36mm axles so no leaving off the 2 step for me nice to see you got everything stright and are knocking numbers off your time
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Re: (Boner_Ben)
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Thanks for the comments guys. Ben, I still want to learn to drive the car at the track a little bit before I go putting some radials or slicks on her. Right now I need to get my launch down slightly better, bleed the clutch, traction bars should be here soon, and see if I can't get it in the low 12's on these street tires. I want to be deep deep in the 11's with slicks, so I gotta get good on street tires first haha.
Thanks for the comments guys. Ben, I still want to learn to drive the car at the track a little bit before I go putting some radials or slicks on her. Right now I need to get my launch down slightly better, bleed the clutch, traction bars should be here soon, and see if I can't get it in the low 12's on these street tires. I want to be deep deep in the 11's with slicks, so I gotta get good on street tires first haha.
