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Old 08-21-2018, 11:13 AM
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I have a del Sol with ls/vtec and it's already currently turbo pushing 300hp with a t3/t4 60trim. I'm just tired of this turbo cause it just poops out when I am on interstate it's like it just looses it's umph and i built the motor to hold 650hp. Now my question is this has anyone used a turbonetics tnx 30-56 or tnx 30-60. Trying to get opinions on this turbo before I drop 1700.00 on a new turbo it is a duel ball bearing or I can get single ball bearing for 1500.00. My purpose on doing this is so it will make a better drag car and also daily driven. Just need ideas on it and opinion on this turbo cause I have not seen anyone running it and woundering around what RPM to expect to see it kick in.
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You'll have to share some more info on your motor setup, power target and use of vehicle.

Greg from Go Autoworks is probably one of your best sources for information as they use Turbonetics products in their turbo kit product lines. The "T'-brand has become somewhat of a forgotten entity as Garrett, Borg Warner and Precision get the most limelight in the Sport Compact scene.
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Go autoworks will reply when he sees this.
Im also interested.
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The new, or should I say latest, TNX series turbos are great. They come with either dual ball bearing or journal bearing (no single BB option) cartridges. Both options have dual oil seals, and water cooled ports on the CHRA. The TNX wheels are completely new in comparsion to the previous billet wheel and F1 turbine wheel designs. As for power, the 30-56 (48lbs per min) is rated at 450hp, the 30-60(56lbs per min) at 525 (the 40-60 is rated at 625hp, [65lbs per min] if you were wanting to meet that max number you posted). That is 3 of the 4 I typically deal w/ here (at far less than $1700...) They all still come w/ the 1 yr no fault, no hassle warranty, T3 turbine housings. The TNX30 is E cover, TNX 40, S cover in sizing.

If you were looking for "sizing comparables". It would be more like TNX30-56 /3076 or EFR7064. TNX40-60 /3576

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(pic is almost 3 yrs old, that's when we first started receiving them)

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Thank u all for y'all's reply. And Mr autoworks is the tnx 30-56 comparable to a gt30 turbo. And is it a much better turbo than the super 60-1 and 60-2. By asking this it will let me know the area of where the tnx 30-56 stand closer to as I'm looking for a turbo that will kick in at later rpms vs too soon as it's just not for me and what Im looking for. The t3 t4 was fun but just didn't have the pull I wanted it just fumed out later in rpms as if it had nothing left to offer but at see time not needing something too big like a 6262 permission turbo
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Yes, a 3076R has a 57mm ind/76mm exd compressor and a 60mm in/55mm ex turbine. A 30-56 has a 56mm ind/72mm exd compressor and a 60mm in/48mm exd turbine (both the 30-60 and 30-56 have the same turbine wheel where as the 30-60 has a slightly larger compressor wheel at 60mm/78mm). Both would rock throughout the rpm range on a LSVTEC app.

Night and day comparison (and not even in the same 24hr day) between an older 60-1 and the newer technology turbos when it comes to power delivery (and I actually like[d] the 60-1 Hifi compressor in CERTAIN applications).
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How do you feel with the very small turbine exducer with big turbine wheel inducer.
Its different at least. Garret allways had big turbine trim. These new turbonetics TNX turbine wheels are very different approach.
On paper they look small for the compressor they are carring.
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If i understand physics correct big trim turbine wheels like smaller turbine housings to keep backpressure low and wheel/exhaust gass speed high.
Is the turbine wheel taller from garrett others to utilise the big trim?
Whats the turbine blade thickness compared to other turbos?
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Also worth mentioning I still kept my air conditioning as I do still drive it around on weekends. As far as upgraded it has as follows.

Wisco pistions kept the ls b18b1 bore size
​​​​​​Eagle h beam rods
king racing bearings
Arp head studs
Arp rod bolts
B16 head
B18B1 bottom
Gsr transmission with qualif lsd 1-3 is gsr gears the rest is ls gears.
Hondata s300 v3
complete msd ignition
Skunk 2 pro series Mani750cc r/c injectors
Injector spray box left in there when I used my 1000cc I'd injectors
Aem fuel rail
255 walbro fuel pump high flow
Dash 10 fuel lines
Wisco cams
3angle vale job and full port polish
Sleeved
Tubo Mani compatible for AC so turbo mounts on left by transmission side
3inch exhaust
Tail blow off vavle
Turbinetics evolution waste gate
Ofc mounts to handle any power I put down
Currently t3/t4 turbo 60 trim
And there is more I'm leaving off but this should be enough to give u the just of the build. And like I said I still drive it on the streets and also like to drag it but also note I do not have to do emissions where I am from so I do have to worry about that.
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Thanks u again autoworks so rpm wise Wich would u recommend between the 30-56 and the 30-60 and ur reason for why. U have pretty much sums it up for me and also how can I buy threw ur company and what is the pricing for them. As turbonetics them selves is the one I was dealing with a.d the sell the turbo sperate from the turbo housing of Wich is like an additional 260.00
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I feel like the combinations work well. I don't know that it's really "different" in concept. It's just their design take on it.

Turbine housing sizing I guess depends on what "small" is to you. In T3 config, they come .65 or .85; where as IMO, small would be .36 or.48 (which I'd only use in limited apps on really small turbine wheels that aren't going to make "that much" anyway). In T2 (ie. TNX 20) IMO the turbine housing is huge, at the same time, the T2 options will make 400hp which is also substantial through that type of app IMO. I was able to get a combination w/ the TNX20 comp, TNX30 turbine and straight T3 housings made which for what I do a lot of is an ideal package/best of both worlds type thing.

The turbine wheel is thinner cut at the base , but is also a completely different style in comparison to the F1 wheel that was in every other Turbonetics turbo for the past decade+.

^ 54/43 TNX turbine wheel (it is not paired to the first pic posted...those pics are from 2 different turbos TNX40 and TNX20)
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Thanks u again autoworks so rpm wise Wich would u recommend between the 30-56 and the 30-60 and ur reason for why. U have pretty much sums it up for me and also how can I buy threw ur company and what is the pricing for them. As turbonetics them selves is the one I was dealing with a.d the sell the turbo sperate from the turbo housing of Wich is like an additional 260.00
RPM wise as in what? The 2 aren't very different. I'd in most cases use the 30-60 w/ the slightly larger comp wheel if peak power was what I was concerned with and pair it w/ the .65 turbine housing to "balance" it out . Both have the same turbine wheel.
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