Project Madness has finally begun.
05-02-2003, 10:47 AM
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Project Madness has finally begun.
Setup:
LoveFab Excaliber manifold w/T4 .69/.60
JG 81mm w/10.5:1 compression
Eagle rods, JE pistons
AEM EMS
Crower valve springs/retainers
Custom WAIC
1680cc secondary injectors, stock primary injectors.
255/50/15 Kuhmo 711 tires.
25-30 psi on C116.
Any HP predictions?
05-02-2003, 11:08 AM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (Scott - 93HB Si)
my prediction is 300whp. not knocking your setup just dont trust the eagles. hope you got the upgraded rod bolts
05-02-2003, 11:18 AM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (MotorMatrix.com)
See he we go again. Why is everyone always knocking Eagle rods? I thought Eagle made a quality set of rods? I haven't had any problems and I know others running them that haven't had any problems, what gives?
My guess is one person had a bad experience with Eagle rods, which was probably installer error and said something. At which point everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. That's usually how good quality parts get a bad name. I want to hear from someone who has had a bad experience with Eagles and what their problem was. Don't tell me about your friends friend, I want personal experience.
My guess is one person had a bad experience with Eagle rods, which was probably installer error and said something. At which point everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. That's usually how good quality parts get a bad name. I want to hear from someone who has had a bad experience with Eagles and what their problem was. Don't tell me about your friends friend, I want personal experience.
05-02-2003, 11:23 AM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (ITR420)
sorry, didnt mean to start the eagle war. you may be correct,most of the failures are usually builder error. why dont the others fall apart when there is builder error though?? pauters just dont break at 10k rpm or 200whp all motor. i have seen eagles break at 200whp personally. that was on a motor assembled by endyn. i would say that motor was not builder error, but who knows. anyway, i'll drop the topic so i dont screw up this guys thread. good luck anyway buddy.
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (hybridvteceg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that a coupler to press in your piston rings? or where did you get the ring compresor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like the one I have...I go tmine from Schucks....I am going to get a new one though.....this one is a pain in the ***...I was the plier type...
-Ryan
Looks like the one I have...I go tmine from Schucks....I am going to get a new one though.....this one is a pain in the ***...I was the plier type...
-Ryan
05-02-2003, 01:14 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (Kwuaymaikrup)
looks like a coffee can to me 
didnt some guy just make 647whp on eagles? sounds like they can take some abuse to me...
also, eagles come w/ arp rod bolts.
didnt some guy just make 647whp on eagles? sounds like they can take some abuse to me...
also, eagles come w/ arp rod bolts.
05-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (94goldjungsr)
Yes, my Eagle rods came with ARP bolts. And I do think someone did just made close to 650whp using Eagles. However, to be honest if I knew I was going to be building a motor for 500+ whp I would go with something more expensive like Crowers or Pauters. But for under 500whp the Eagles will be just fine.
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (InfamousRS)
nice man,
quick question,
how much for the engine stand? i wanna buy an engine stand and slowly build an engine and have it ready for a car. look sgood
quick question,
how much for the engine stand? i wanna buy an engine stand and slowly build an engine and have it ready for a car. look sgood
05-02-2003, 04:36 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (evoeone)
this guy tinker is gangsta , thinks the way i do, people always blabbing about lowering compression, this guy goes opposite and will make nmore power, key is in teh tuning, prove em wrong man
, thinks the way i do, people always blabbing about lowering compression, this guy goes opposite and will make nmore power, key is in teh tuning, prove em wrong man
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (ITR420)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR420 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Why is everyone always knocking Eagle rods? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Get it? Rod knock....he he, I get jokes....
Get it? Rod knock....he he, I get jokes....
05-02-2003, 05:02 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (Disco Stu)
poeple knock rods when their tuning game aint on point and cause them to blow, i love it how people think forged internals are bulletproof,
some guy on vwvortex ran 10.5 on stock block with a thicker headgasket and 28 psi on a t72, with dta stand alone, thats hwat you call tuning
http://www.gtrmotorsports.net brian kersch-something
some guy on vwvortex ran 10.5 on stock block with a thicker headgasket and 28 psi on a t72, with dta stand alone, thats hwat you call tuning
http://www.gtrmotorsports.net brian kersch-something
05-02-2003, 05:30 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (evoeone)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evoeone »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice man,
quick question,
how much for the engine stand? i wanna buy an engine stand and slowly build an engine and have it ready for a car. look sgood</TD></TR></TABLE>
i just got my engine stand for 40$ from harborfreight.com
quick question,
how much for the engine stand? i wanna buy an engine stand and slowly build an engine and have it ready for a car. look sgood</TD></TR></TABLE>
i just got my engine stand for 40$ from harborfreight.com
05-02-2003, 06:14 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (hybridvteceg)
we use the northern tool engine stands we have about 4 of them they work pretty good for only 20 bucks. holds 2tons.
05-02-2003, 06:23 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (b18bturbo)
thanx for all the comments guys. the rods actually survived a different blown engine. It was just a popped cylinder wall, but it blew at 22psi, stock block. SO, I know these rods are good.
I got them cheap, cuz my brother cant build manifolds, nor install turbo kits, so we did a little barter
on the engine stand, i believe I payed $25. It was the last one in-stock from Advanced Auto.
And any other guesses on HP? The only limitation that I can see is the stock LS head. Im banking on 500 plus HP, tuned by Tom Payn once I get everything broke in.
Oh ya, my straight T4 might limit things. I need a bigger one hehe
I got them cheap, cuz my brother cant build manifolds, nor install turbo kits, so we did a little barter
on the engine stand, i believe I payed $25. It was the last one in-stock from Advanced Auto.
And any other guesses on HP? The only limitation that I can see is the stock LS head. Im banking on 500 plus HP, tuned by Tom Payn once I get everything broke in.
Oh ya, my straight T4 might limit things. I need a bigger one hehe
05-02-2003, 06:25 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (b18bturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we use the northern tool engine stands we have about 4 of them they work pretty good for only 20 bucks. holds 2tons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn, are you sure ? most stands are only for 500-1000 lbs...
I mean a big block chevy is no where near 2 tons...
I dunno if I trust a 20 bucks engine stand
stan
damn, are you sure ? most stands are only for 500-1000 lbs...
I mean a big block chevy is no where near 2 tons...
I dunno if I trust a 20 bucks engine stand
stan
05-02-2003, 06:25 PM
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (AVATAR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AVATAR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll say 400 with the Eagles, no prob. Get some good tuning 
I thought you were doing a B20/VTEC with an 85mm bore?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope,thats my gf...hehe
I thought you were doing a B20/VTEC with an 85mm bore?</TD></TR></TABLE>Nope,thats my gf...hehe
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Re: Project Madness has finally begun. (Tinker219)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanx for all the comments guys. the rods actually survived a different blown engine. It was just a popped cylinder wall, but it blew at 22psi, stock block. SO, I know these rods are good.
I got them cheap, cuz my brother cant build manifolds, nor install turbo kits, so we did a little barter
on the engine stand, i believe I payed $25. It was the last one in-stock from Advanced Auto.
And any other guesses on HP? The only limitation that I can see is the stock LS head. Im banking on 500 plus HP, tuned by Tom Payn once I get everything broke in.
Oh ya, my straight T4 might limit things. I need a bigger one hehe</TD></TR></TABLE>
it will be funny if your girls del sol beats ur when your done hehhehe..
I got them cheap, cuz my brother cant build manifolds, nor install turbo kits, so we did a little barter
on the engine stand, i believe I payed $25. It was the last one in-stock from Advanced Auto.
And any other guesses on HP? The only limitation that I can see is the stock LS head. Im banking on 500 plus HP, tuned by Tom Payn once I get everything broke in.
Oh ya, my straight T4 might limit things. I need a bigger one hehe
</TD></TR></TABLE>it will be funny if your girls del sol beats ur when your done hehhehe..