Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Weighing my options:

1.) Build my S2000 with 600 whp range = estimated $10k+

2.) Purchase a clean hatchback, boost H22 or B18C1 or B18B, 600 whp+ range = $10k or less?

With the FRM in F20c F22c and H22A requiring a sleeve rebuild, I am leaning towards the B series motor for major boost goals.

Hesitant to even crack open F motor since home garage rebuild 'is not recommended'. So the H22A is a nice candidate.

Note: I will be installing and tuning myself so trial/error will mean a possible engine replacement. In terms of my willingness to spend money, I am not looking spend too much due to #Adulting.

Build goal is to run 1/2 mile races, decent decent handling for street, and get those Lambo kills. This turbo build will be a weekend/ non-daily driver.

For previous/current owners who are running boost, are my budget prices accurate? What types of setbacks have you experienced?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

you should pay a tuner that is experienced and knows the platform and power goals you are going for otherwise you are wasting time/money unless you plan to open a tuning business of your own and want to practice on your car for a while till you nail it.

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

600WHP can be done on a bone stock F20/F22C with a good tune. Since you're tuning yourself though, you probably won't want to take that risk.

Sleeves with a B or H will be mandatory for 600+, or with a B series engine at the very least CSS.

Your budget is too small when considering the chassis, engine, fuel, EMS, and turbo components needed.

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Agreed. It would probably actually cost less in the long run to just have a seasoned tuner tune it.

IMO, a 600hp S2000 and a 600hp FWD Civic are 2 really different animals when it's all said and done.
I've owned a 600+whp D series and own a 600+ whp S2k now. They are just different types of "fast" for me. Both have (had) sleeved blocks... (as far as the S2k goes, the block wasn't the hardest hit $ wise...it was the rear end conversion)

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Limited budget, extravagant goals, finicky platforms, beginner build.. What could go wrong?

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Depends heavily on which engine. You can easily surpass 15k on any of your chosen platforms, providing you do the work yourself.

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

With how cheap K24s are at US for 1/2 mile /roll racing it becomes very obvious K24 with a K20A2/Z3 is very capable. EFR9174 was htting full boost at 4500 on a k24 (...)

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...a28a88c3e4.jpg

FWD guys most of the times forget the cost of the rear differential (in europe they use 300zx if i remeber correct and someone did an M5) and axles (it happens with new BMW guys too)

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

What about boosting a d16 for 400+ hp? What is the budget range?

Is it even worth the time building a sohc?

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Building a 400hp D series is a great option...but what is it that YOU really want out of the build?

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

-D16
-CSS block
-YCP/custom lengh rods
-mini ram
It must be like the best bang for your buck like ever.

Re: Previous/current F20c F22c, H, and B engine builders
 

Great question. My end goal is to build a high horsepower turbo car (leaning towards civic hatchback or coupe) for weekend (occasional) driving/drag racing/half-mile racing. As mentioned before, this project will be self tuned/built so I will be leaving a generous margin for errors. So a replacement engine is possible.

Any idea on the expected budget range for a 400+ whp turbo d16 setup? Everything prior to chassis modifications and professional tuning to clean up my tuning.


Thanks for your information. This is a great starting point for me and anybody else looking to build a home-built project car.