precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R
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precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R
I recently purchased a manifold with a GT35R turbo. The person that is selling me the turbo is going to be sending me a Precision GT35R turbo and I just wanted to know how it compared to the garrett? I know that they are pretty much the same company, but one is supposed to be better than the other right? any inputs please?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Arturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Same thing...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Isn't the turbine housing different?
Isn't the turbine housing different?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (zulustypes)
If I remember right in one of my old threads arturo addressed this and he stated that... The inards of the turbo are precision and that the housing of the turbo is garett and that there are two housings the e-housing and the s-housing, the s-housing being the bigger one.
I could be wrong tho...
I could be wrong tho...
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (zulustypes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zulustypes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently purchased a manifold with a GT35R turbo. The person that is selling me the turbo is going to be sending me a Precision GT35R turbo and I just wanted to know how it compared to the garrett? I know that they are pretty much the same company, but one is supposed to be better than the other right? any inputs please?
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
they use precesion housings and garret internals.
I personally would have gone for the garret genuine part for the casting on the exhuast side is much nicer then the Precesion counter part.
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they use precesion housings and garret internals.
I personally would have gone for the garret genuine part for the casting on the exhuast side is much nicer then the Precesion counter part.
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (integlspwr2k)
FYI, Precision is the largest of all the Garrett Performance Distributors. On the GT35R, we use the Garrett CHRA (center housing rotating assy) along with our own exhaust housing, backplate and compressor cover.
One of the reason why we do this is because the out-of-the-box Garrett GT35R has exhaust housing A/R's (0.82 and 1.06) that are simply too big for 4-cyl street applications. Our own housing has a a 0.63 A/R, better aerodynamics and is now available in either a 4 or 5-bolt pattern on the discharge side.
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.
The Garrett GT technology offers greatly improved aerodynamics. The dual ball bearing design offers significant advantages over the older journal bearing design not only in quicker spooling, but also in terms of longer life and increased durability. These are also rebuildable through us, which is another important advantage.
Another manufacturer offers a single, or hybrid ball bearing system which uses a single ball bearing on the compressor side with a traditional journal bearing. Since the single bearing can only take thrust in one direction, a thrust bearing is still necessary and drag on the turbine side journal bearing is unchanged. With the Garrett system, the rotor group is entirely supported by ball bearings, so efficiency, performance & durability are maximized.
We've gotten a lot of compliments not only on the performance, but also the appearance of our product.
Hope this clears up some of the misinformation. Please call if I can offer any clarification.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
(219) 996-7832
One of the reason why we do this is because the out-of-the-box Garrett GT35R has exhaust housing A/R's (0.82 and 1.06) that are simply too big for 4-cyl street applications. Our own housing has a a 0.63 A/R, better aerodynamics and is now available in either a 4 or 5-bolt pattern on the discharge side.
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.
The Garrett GT technology offers greatly improved aerodynamics. The dual ball bearing design offers significant advantages over the older journal bearing design not only in quicker spooling, but also in terms of longer life and increased durability. These are also rebuildable through us, which is another important advantage.
Another manufacturer offers a single, or hybrid ball bearing system which uses a single ball bearing on the compressor side with a traditional journal bearing. Since the single bearing can only take thrust in one direction, a thrust bearing is still necessary and drag on the turbine side journal bearing is unchanged. With the Garrett system, the rotor group is entirely supported by ball bearings, so efficiency, performance & durability are maximized.
We've gotten a lot of compliments not only on the performance, but also the appearance of our product.
Hope this clears up some of the misinformation. Please call if I can offer any clarification.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
(219) 996-7832
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of the reason why we do this is because the out-of-the-box Garrett GT35R has exhaust housing A/R's (0.82 and 1.06) that are simply too big for 4-cyl street applications. Our own housing has a a 0.63 A/R, better aerodynamics and is now available in either a 4 or 5-bolt pattern on the discharge side.
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could the T04S ported shroud compressor cover be ordered togheter with the 0.63 A/R 4 bolt turbine housing? Would this be a good combination for a 2 Liter street car?
Thanks
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could the T04S ported shroud compressor cover be ordered togheter with the 0.63 A/R 4 bolt turbine housing? Would this be a good combination for a 2 Liter street car?
Thanks
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Re: (PrettyLude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrettyLude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good info</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Yup, you can get the T04S ported shroud with a 0.63 A/R. No problem. Call if we can provide any other info.
Rod Short
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Precision Turbo
(219) 996-7832
Rod Short
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Precision Turbo
(219) 996-7832
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (zulustypes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zulustypes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently purchased a manifold with a GT35R turbo. The person that is selling me the turbo is going to be sending me a Precision GT35R turbo and I just wanted to know how it compared to the garrett? I know that they are pretty much the same company, but one is supposed to be better than the other right? any inputs please?
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a Precision turbo Zulu, its fine. You need to get set back up so I can take you out before I sell the beast(if I do)
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I have a Precision turbo Zulu, its fine. You need to get set back up so I can take you out before I sell the beast(if I do)
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I have recently sold two GT35Rs from Precision to customers and they are PURRRTY!!! Seriously the housings were very nice, once being an H cover or Ported shroud which was really nice. The customers have been very very happy with their purchases!
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.
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T04S Ported Shroud=H Cover? Correct? Or are we getting S covers with an anti surge inlet now?
We also use a CNC machined aluminum backplate and have a wide variety of compressor covers available, e.g. a T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet), T04S (4" inlet, 2.5" outlet) or a T04S ported shroud.
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T04S Ported Shroud=H Cover? Correct? Or are we getting S covers with an anti surge inlet now?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Boostfed)
Thanks for the question. TheH cover has a 4" inlet/3" outlet. The T04S ported shroud has the same inlet with a smaller 2.5" outlet and the anti-surge ring incorporated into the inlet of the compressor cover.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the question. TheH cover has a 4" inlet/3" outlet. The T04S ported shroud has the same inlet with a smaller 2.5" outlet and the anti-surge ring incorporated into the inlet of the compressor cover.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for clearing that up Rod. I was unaware you guys made the T04S ported shroud, you guys need to keep me up to date on this when I call everyday.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for clearing that up Rod. I was unaware you guys made the T04S ported shroud, you guys need to keep me up to date on this when I call everyday.
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the question. TheH cover has a 4" inlet/3" outlet. The T04S ported shroud has the same inlet with a smaller 2.5" outlet and the anti-surge ring incorporated into the inlet of the compressor cover.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is the H cover compatible with the same backplate as the S cover? How about the overall diameter and thickness of the volute? And the A/R of the H housing? Basically, what are the advantages besides the 3" outlet?
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is the H cover compatible with the same backplate as the S cover? How about the overall diameter and thickness of the volute? And the A/R of the H housing? Basically, what are the advantages besides the 3" outlet?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (turbopimp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbopimp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is the H cover compatible with the same backplate as the S cover? How about the overall diameter and thickness of the volute? And the A/R of the H housing? Basically, what are the advantages besides the 3" outlet? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The H covere is HUGE compared to the S cover. Like comparing E cover to S cover BUT may be more actually. The H I BELIEVE also has a 10% greater efficiency as the S as the S is supposed to have over the E housing also. Hope this made sense!?
Is the H cover compatible with the same backplate as the S cover? How about the overall diameter and thickness of the volute? And the A/R of the H housing? Basically, what are the advantages besides the 3" outlet? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The H covere is HUGE compared to the S cover. Like comparing E cover to S cover BUT may be more actually. The H I BELIEVE also has a 10% greater efficiency as the S as the S is supposed to have over the E housing also. Hope this made sense!?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Boostfed)
Ok, but the S and E covers can bolt onto the same backplate... just wondering if the H can as well. I remember seeing the H somewhere and yeah, that sucker looked HUGE
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (turbopimp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbopimp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, but the S and E covers can bolt onto the same backplate... just wondering if the H can as well. I remember seeing the H somewhere and yeah, that sucker looked HUGE </TD></TR></TABLE>
Unfortunately different back plates, I am 90% sure on that , 99% actually. UNfortunately it is not like a turbine housing where you can just swap them out with no other changes.
Unfortunately different back plates, I am 90% sure on that , 99% actually. UNfortunately it is not like a turbine housing where you can just swap them out with no other changes.
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Boostfed)
That's correct, The T04E and T04S covers use different backplates. The smallest turbo we make the H-cover for is the PT63 with the P-trim wheel. As for the T04S ported shroud cover, we only made a handful of them. We should have these back on the shelf in March.
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (Rod Short)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rod Short »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The T04E and T04S covers use different backplates. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought the E and S covers were interchangeable for a given trim, am I mistaken?
I thought the E and S covers were interchangeable for a given trim, am I mistaken?
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Re: precision turbo GT35R vs Garrett GT35R (turbopimp)
They are interchangeable on the turbo, yes, but the backplates are specific to the compressor cover. In other words, you have to replace the compressor cover and backplate together. Hope this helps.
Rod
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