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Old 07-17-2002, 08:28 PM
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Default Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas?

Highly tuned of course. This guy I talked to, has a sleeved block by GE with pistons and rods running 1 BAR of boost right now. However, he told me hes gonna run 25 PSI soon on pump gas?? I told him that its not possible but he said its possible.
Old 07-17-2002, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

it probably is but i dont wanna stand near and find out
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (roby)

I was under the impression around 15psi is the limit for pump gas. I am assuming this would be 93 octane. Is this about right or could it go a bit higher?
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (Anubyss)

What does this guy have like 6:1 comp? It could be possible if you took out basically all of your timing, ran it super rich and pray'd alot.
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (boosted hybrid)

8:1 compression and 93 octane you might get away with 20psi and dead nuts on tuning. but i am not an expert. just extrapolating.
Old 07-17-2002, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (falconGSR)

Here are pics of his car, looks so damn sweet, makes me wanna get a bodykit



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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

it reminds me of butterscotch pudding.

mmmmm yummy.


I think I heard somewhere the max power you could put down with 91 octane was 400 whp... I dunno, I would like a clear answer myself.
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

let him try....then come back to us with a FULL written(with pictures) report!
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (SiRkid)

why the hell would he completely build his motor and run 25 psi and then wanna run pump gas?
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (TenaciousC)

why the hell would he completely build his motor and run 25 psi and then wanna run pump gas?
because some people drive their cars on the street and $10 a gallon doesnt work too well
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (dmotoguy)

We are running 20 psi on a stock LS engine and 93 octane, and we are making a whopping 300whp. He may drop the hell out of the CR or just run a small turbo. he might even weld up his intake ports to the size of dimes and run 50 psi.

Boost is a measure of restriction not horsepower or potential.

tuning plays a major role in the scheme also.


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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

boost does not equal airflow.

Compression plays a huge part in this, and of course, tuning. That should be your determining factor.
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (VaporTrail)

I made 461 at 17psi with pump gas so it is that far fetched(101 octane) from sonoco
Old 07-18-2002, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (CivicGSRTurbo)

I made 461 at 17psi with pump gas so it is that far fetched(101 octane) from sonoco
dude that is impresive, i think a list of mods would be in order.

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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (CivicGSRTurbo)

I made 461 at 17psi with pump gas so it is that far fetched(101 octane) from sonoco
Lucky bum. The Sunoco near me only carries 98
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

Guys lets look at the big picture here, why would anyone spend that kind of money on a built motor then try to blow it up?
It is definately not too safe to run that kind of boost pressure on pump gas.
Especially now its summer time!
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (BG Boost)

he told me hes gonna run 25 PSI soon on pump gas?? I told him that its not possible but he said its possible.
After talking to many customers over the past few years, I know there is a good number of people out there with an assumption that a built motor is indestructable.

However, a built motor is just the opposite. A sleved motor with stronger rods and good forged pistons like the JE's can and, if properly built, will have more potential of making/holding more power when equiped with proper modifications (ie. fuel system, larger turbo, etc..). But without proper tuning and proper fuel (octane) the built motor is only marginally better at holding together under abuse.

So... It would be pretty foolish to run 25psi on pump gas (I'm assuming he means 91-93octane). The only way I could imagine making the motor last more than a few passes would be to retard the timing and run the car pig rich - and tuned like that he'd probalby make less horsepower than he currently has at 15psi!

Hope this helps,
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (Mike@Altered)

I made 89 hp in my all motor 87 carb. civic on 87 octaine...so yeah, he can boost 25 pounds and run pump gas.
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (Mike@Altered)

Has this person considered alcohol injection?
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (bruthaboost)

is this 25 psi at the track, or daily driven?? I might see a reason to do 25 at the track with "RACE GAS" but not pump. Also if he wants to drive around on the street at 25 psi that is about the dumbest thing i have heard in a while. first off his tires will probable be spinnin like no tomorrow, and second; that's just a bunch of pointless speeding endangering the lives of many.
just my 2 cents
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (ninesecrx)

I made 89 hp in my all motor 87 carb. civic on 87 octaine...so yeah, he can boost 25 pounds and run pump gas.
was that at the wheels?
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We are running 20 psi on a stock LS engine and 93 octane, and we are making a whopping 300whp. He may drop the hell out of the CR or just run a small turbo. he might even weld up his intake ports to the size of dimes and run 50 psi.

Boost is a measure of restriction not horsepower or potential.

tuning plays a major role in the scheme also.


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thank you. run as much as you want, just dont detonate, pop a gasket or bend a rod
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (TorteX)

this then raises the question (at least for me) as how much psi you can run on pump gas, say 93 octane?
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (mntdewred)

as said previously in this thread, it depends on compression level, and tune quality.
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Default Re: Is it possible to run 25 PSI on a sleeved block with pump gas? (mntdewred)

14.56783201 PSI at sea level
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