Boosted_B_Series

So I sold my GT3065/3082R

I'm needing help picking out the right turbo for me, I've searched and searched and my findings lead me to a 362 or 366

I'm confused if I should go t3 or t4.. I hear the t4s spool faster? I will be building the manifold around this turbo, so I am not dead set on any flange design, t3, t4, divided or not, its up in the air.

I'm a little worried about falling out of boost in between gears but this year I will have full throttle anti lag shift hooked up which may help.

This car will be driven on the street and at the track.

My HP goals are in the 600-750 range. I'd like a high 10 sec time slip, but honestly that's going to take seat time of which I don't have.

Please help me allocate my money properly. I don't want to make a stupid $1200 decision.


My setup
94 RS Teg.. All this might go into a hatch I have later.
I will rev it to 9-9.5k, maybe 10k when I get a balancer

Fully built type R head, ported polished, valves, springs retainers ect..
Innes Mazworx V1 turbo cams.
1.5" sch 10 primarys, 3 or 4" open dp.
Sheet metal intake
3" cold, 2.5" hot [can change if needed]
Single or Dual 44mm gates, I have one so far.
GSR block, JE pistions, Eagle H beams, stock sleeves
[I will be building a new GE sleeved setup shortly with cp's, ls crank, turbo tuffs ect.. ]
750hp fuel setup
850hp IC
Bosch 1ks
MT 24.5s 13" TE37s F 16" TE37s R
GSR LSD trans
Ectune Pro

Thanks for your time,
DK

sweetfwdthunder

iTrader: (2)

For your hp goals i would say run a s366 w/t4 divided top mount manifold. What kind of fuel pump are you running?

TIGboy

why are you doing all of this work and then just going to a sleeved block with different internals?

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

What more can be done to the block than sleeved and different internals? was there something more to the equation that you need?

To the OP. You don't even NEED 700whp to get a high 10 second time slip. There are those getting that easily w/ about 500whp or so. Seat time is definately needed here, as well as attention to the chassis/suspension setup you're trying to do. You'll need a transmission scatter shield on most tracks for even sub 12 seconds, so you've got other things to worry about other than power.

The S362 is a fine idea, especially if thrown in w/ a Kooks-style manifold. I'd use that with the smaller S200 cover in the .70A/R (not the .85 or .55--> they use completely different flanges and larger turbine wheel can actually fit into the .70A/R better than the other 2). The S362 could work, and if power needs over 700 are a must, you can simply get an S366 cartridge and cover later, instead of an entire new unit.

Boosted_B_Series

Bosch 44s for the pump setup, I'm not sure what the benefits to a divided t4 flange as opposed to the t3 flanged version if they will meet my power goals as well. Anyone want to shed some light on this? I would like the quickest spool possible for a 600+ hp turbo.

On the block, right now my current gsr block has stock sleeves. I am building the other gsr block I have separate and wanted something a bit more stout. So I figured GE sleeves along with some nicer pistons and rods along with a LS crank would do it. The stock sleeves seem to be my weak link right now, along with my seat time on the stickys Stock sleeves will be fine on the street which in the cars first couple months will see nothing but the streets on 20 psi or less. I just want to have some fun with this car, I just totaled my last 500+ hp setup.

I had originally planned on getting the 362 with the .70 t3 but I figured if I was going to build a manifold I might kick my self in the *** later on if I decided to go t4 and had to rebuild another manifold.

I'm not real sure I'm ready for 700+ and the added woes that will go along with that. I hate to say it but it would be nice to dyno queen that, but that's really it right now. I really like the idea of being able to upgrade the turbo later on down the road. I also do understand that I don't need any were close to that to see a 10 sec slip but I always tend to over build things to reach my goals easier.

I do some research on this 'kooks' style manifold, honestly I've never heard of it.

Any more questions, comments or suggestions are more than welcome and I thank you for your time.

DK

tegman23

Like stated, you really only need about 500whp to go 10s...s362 is a nice pick for a turbo for those goals though, should have a decent spool time, but supply the power you need..

Boosted_B_Series

Thanks for the reply. Right now everything is going in a 94 RS integra that's been stripped down to the core. I'm guessing its going to weigh in the 2200lb range w/o driver. If it doesn't do what I need it to do this season I have a little 92 si hatch that's gutted that it will all go in for next season.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

In a T4 divided housing, there is no "quick spool up". Please check my sig for the cliff-notes of what I'm trying to say here.

tegman23

If you can get that car down to 2200lbs, I have seen cars around that weight with good 60fts and around 450whp going high 10s..

narfdanarf

I guess that depends on what you consider quick.

boostedeg6-1

Look, if you are really going to be driving this on the street/daily you dont want the T4 contrary to what some might say, you are gonna hate the lag on the street. Check out the new precision sc6262s has the new designed billet wheel. Its a 62mm compressor wheel and they have been proven on the dyno to make 720+ in T3 flange.... They spool right around 5k for full boost leaving you with a very very much desirable power band for street and strip. I had confirmation from my buddy chris HT SN (T4eg) is the crew cheif from clutchmasters made 738whp and 512tq on an 83mm gsr with itr cams.... Just saying do some research into this turbo very very very good turbo.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

They've made similar results on the S362 as well. Right now there is pending data of a direct comparison b/w the BW S362 .70A/R T3 vs. the SC6262 billet. It will be available in the coming months. From a designer's perspective, they seem very comparable in characteristics, and yet the S362 doesn't even use a billet wheel , and has a standard 1 year warranty.

Boosted_B_Series

My buddie has the 6262, nice turbo.

I sold my garrett thou to try out a borg warner. I've been itching to see what these turbos are all about and I really am impressed with the 1 year warranty. If I could get a solid year out of one, I would have no problem buying another or getting it rebuilt. I think one thing I didn't consider when I was asking about the t4 flanges is that they are much bigger in a/r size. I really think the 362 .70 t3 is what I need. Now If I can just find a good deal on one that'd be great. I've been waiting for one to pop up in the marketplace for a while now.

Also when I referred to spool, I said the quickest possible for a xxx hp turbo. I realize that with my hp goals I might not full spool to 6.5-7k, and that's fine. As long as I can stay in boost between my no lift to shifts I'm ok with it.

Thanks again for your time everyone.

ACTION JACTION

If you are looking for ultimate spool, then the S362 is definitely the way to go. But S362 and S366 compared, both being T3 0.70 A/R, the spool would only be approx 300 rpms difference. Another turbo you dont really hear alot about is the S370. It has the same physical appearance as the S366 (T3 0.70 A/R and all) but it has a billet wheel and good for 850 whp.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

You'll rarely ever see a S362 on the marketplace, so don't hold your breath. PM me, I may be able to work something out for you.

Boosted_B_Series

pm sent!

Only 300rpm's difference?

ACTION JACTION

Its roughly in that area. The S362 ETT DOES spool faster than the S366 ETT, but not by much.

Tjabo

Did these results ever materialize?

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Still coming from the end of this year's season.

Tjabo

Cool!