2kdrift

So My goal is 450 HP. It is a street car so spool is pretty important to me, I would even lower my Hp goal by about 50HP if the spool is gonna be Way Quicker. I will order from Go-Autoworks or synapse turbo depending on recomendations. Basically looking for something with just a little bit more power then a gt28rs. Synapse offers a gt3076r, and Go-autoworks I would most likely go with their Turbonetics T-GA Billet 5454 Possibly Ball Bearing Model or a Turbonetics 60-1. Reallly hoping someone With lots of experience/knowlege can chime in. Also would it be worth doing a Ram setup over a log setup?

Prefer Prebuilt Kit, Had trouble in the past Getting all the parts to fit
Variable Budget Hopefully less then 4K (for the kit)

My setup:

B18c1 (81.5MM) Less then 5k Miles on block freshly built, broken in properly
Eagle Rods, ARP Rodbolts, Wiseco Pistons about 9.4:1, Eagle blockguard, ACL race bearings, Apocalypse racing oil pump
Stock Headgasket, ARP Headbolts
B16a2 Head With GSR Cams
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
AEM Fuel Rail, AEM FPR, 1000CC ID Injectors
Walbro 255 fuel pump
P28 (will Get Hondata S300 installed when i go in for tuning)

ITR LSD Transmission
With Stage 2 Exedy Clutch (3 Puck Semi Metallic disc)


May have forgot something But everything else is stock from what i can remember off the top of my head

m4xwellmurd3r

Gtx2867r should get you to 450
Spools quick and has a ver nice compressor map

I took a look at the compressor maps and the gtx2867r looks similar to a gt3071r but with a WAY better surge line

wantboost

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don't put too much faith in that oil pump, they are total ****

the gtx series is nice, if you can afford it. a gtx series turbo will eat most of your budget for the whole setup.

any Garrett product is a good choice, I honestly haven't followed Turbonetics at all lately (saw some new size combos at PRI last year but nothing groundbreaking IMO, although they did have an entire model turbo 3d printed, pretty pimp display piece)

m4xwellmurd3r

Oh crap lol I didnt see his 4k budget there. Yeah a gtx turbo will eat half that budget at least

dcmatt

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http://www.brfittings.com/index.php?...product_id=115

Great turbo. Never heard a bad thing about it. I've seen theshodan claim 20 psi by 4200 on certain setups and this turbo is capable of over 500.

And I'd go with a miniram. Will have better response over a ram and flow better then a log.

wantboost

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yea you can't go wrong with that turbo

2kdrift

I think I added that part after you replied, thanks for letting me know about this turbo I could afford this if needed and definitely considering it thanks for making me aware of this turbo. I will have to contact go-autoworks and see if this is an option.

@dcmatt
Forgot to mention that I want to use my A/C. thats why im debating between log and ram otherwise i would go mini ram for sure. Live in Hawaii its hot all year round

SilverEK96

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OP, send a PM to TheShodan and ask him about the Predator. Its the upgraded version of the Silver Sulfer. Basically on almost the same setup you have I made 433HP @ 17psi on 107 degree day here in Texas. Also for your manifold choice I would go with a log manifold over the mini ram. The mini ram is great and all, but they can be a pain in the a** when it comes to boost creep and the whole positioning of turbo location is a pain too. Take a look at Inline pro log manifold. It can make the power you want and rarely do people have any issues with them.

kyden

At what rpm are you looking to achieve full spool?

Dark_Teg

The GT3076R spools so quick that my CRX doesn't even feel like a turbo car. It seems like as quick as I can floor it........BAM! Full boost. I am using a spoolin performance log

wantboost

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I'm using a gt2871r on a Neukin mini ram, everything coated/wrapped... it should be a stupid fun 400hp street turbo, lag is almost nonexistent.

the main issue with a miniram is how low the turbo sits, a lot of people can't figure out the return line plumbing, granted it does take a bit of creativity.

I've rarely seen a miniram have creep issues if a properly sized turbocharger and quality wastegate is used. it also takes a strong pressure signal to the wastegate from the intake manifold, there's too much turbulence and pressure changes in the compressor volute to send a constant signal to the wastegate

m4xwellmurd3r

I was thinking of using a miniram as well. How did you sort out the return line plumbing

2kdrift

I am aware of that manifold I even had one about a year ago but i never got to use it (i had a 4 bolt ex turbo) But anyway I really want to buy the kit as a whole. spoke with greg today at go autoworks. He recomended a 60-1 Hifi Ball bearing which i am planning to get as soon as i get paid next week. I will look into the Predator turbo in the mean time.

THANKS to everyone who has contributed to this thread

2kdrift

I would say about 4500 about the same time my vtec kicks in. After driving arround today i remembered how quickly i go through my gears with the ITR trans lol

2kdrift

I could have sworn greg said a Gt30 wont fit properly with the go autoworks log. I have to look into this the GT3076r sounds perfect for what I want

wantboost

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with a miniram you can't run the line straight to the pan, there isn't enough space (not even for rubber lines and push fittings) the trick is to run a loop of line with a constant downward angle.

bmxkills

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3076 IMO is almost too much for your goal. My Garret 57 trim T04E/T31 .63 ar was full spool at like 3500 rpm and made 460 at 21 psi on pump. They can be had for like $300 and are perfect for you.

m4xwellmurd3r

So essentially try and run a line at an angle towards the side of the pan rather than a straight shot to the pan

wantboost

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no the fitting is still on the front of the pan, the line needs to make a half circle loop from turbo drain to the front of the pan

m4xwellmurd3r

I think I get it. The turbos oil drain faces the front of the car more and you loop tge line back towards the pan?

wantboost

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exactly... it helps to use a straight fitting off the turbo and the pan as it ensures the oil leaving the turbo will accelerate down the return line and reach the pan, it also ensures the oil return has enough downward slope

m4xwellmurd3r

Cool, thanks for the tip. Ill have to keep that in my notes.
The only other thing, and this is something I wont know till I get the parts, is if I can run the compressor on the drivers side using my tucked radiator. Im gonna tuck it into the support as far forwards as I can, I just dont know how fsr the turbo will protrude being set in that way.

Schister66

Look into TheShodan's turbos a little more (Predator or Silver Surfer)...the 60-1 is an old, outdated design and ball bearings aren't going to fix that

wantboost

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the miniram places the turbo very close to the block, with a turbo with a t04b or t04e compressor housing can use a full size rad (depending on chassis) so you'll be fine with a radiator tucked under the core support

I'm debating between a full rad or a scirocco rad tucked under the core support on my setup (ls/vtec, Neukin AX T25/38mm miniram, GT2871R) just need to figure out my dual backdoor setup

TheShodan

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Used and needing a rebuild possibly.. But that's a big risk to take. But I agree, there are other alternatives to a ball-bearing unit like a GT3076R, but that isn't all that realistic in terms of pricing.