h23atsi

ok here's the deal....... i'm thinking about buying this built h23 block that supposedly has je 9.5.1 forged pistons, crower rods, ohio iron sleeved block, chambfered crank and moroso oil pan. what i'm wondering is, what you guys think of the condition of the block, mainly the sleeves. heres some pics ..







the thing that i'm unsure about is that on the walls of the cylinders it looks like the pistons have done a little scraping. those of you that have worked with sleeved blocks what do you think. is that normal? the seller said, and i quote, "it is the honing they have to do, its like resurfacing a flywheel or turing brake rotors you can check with a shop or a dealership. The the rings have to seat also much like a brake pad or a clutch i hope thats understandable." I just want opinions on if it's worth spending 1000+ on it.
thanks

boosted3g

run your fingernail around the cylinders. if you can feel any snags it will need at least honed ifnot bored a little. Its not the best method but its acurate. They look a little worn to me.

avividmemory

that was my first thought too, the one cylinder looks a little scuffed up....what brand sleeves are in it? you said ohio iron sleeves, but ive never heard of those...got any other pics? for 1000 that seems like a good deal

TypeR 01 886

yes. more pics please.

h23atsi

well, the guy that is trying to sell this block to me lives in wisconsin and i live in oklahoma. so i can't do any in person type stuff. the seller said that the sleeves were ohio sleeves, i personally have only heard of them once. he said that he had it bored out to a 2.4L which i assume is around 88.5-89mm? would this leave any room for boring and honing if i needed it done? i have more questions but i got to go......
here's some more pics of the cylinders







oh yeah this block was used for 1000 miles before he took it out.
thanks

shortyz

been driven hard..

if you cant feel the scratches it just needs to be honed like said above..

1000 include head?

h23atsi

well i'll ask him if he can feel any scratches but i'm one of those guys that has to see it and feel it in person to know it's true. as far as that 1000 price goes that's just a maybe price and it would be just for the block. the head is an extra 700. do you guys think it would be worth it to buy the block if i can get the price down and just resleeve it with some ge or darton sleeves? i'm kinda debating on whether to get this block or just rebuild my block whenever it starts going south.
thanks for all the help. also does anyone know a range of prices it would be to get the block resleeved?

ludesleep

i noticed there is a small crack in between the sleeves is that gonna give you problems?

ludesleep

anyone else think that will be a problem?

Finest

Which picture? A crack is serious.

Suprdave

First off...theres a reason hes selling it...#2,It looks to have way more than 1000 miles.

Suprdave

ludesleep

well i just bought this block of the guy. I took it to a shop that said they dont know if the water jacket runs in between the sleeves or if their siomeas. If this is a problem I will have to get resleeved am i gonna be able to re-use pistons?..or just new rings? Im kinda pissed that this guy didnt tell me the walls were cracked in between but this could be a small problem. Ive only paid the guy 500 so far if this is gonna cost me out the *** to fix hes not getting his other 500.

Suprdave

Why you buying that POS anyways?

Man, some of you guys are morons...did you not read the thread before you sent the money? $500 is a good deal though, heh...

Suprdave

laughinxxx

What part of WI is the guy in? I'm in Madison. Maybe I can check it out for you.

ludesleep

he lives in Oak Creek... are the pistons gonna be reusable if i have to get this thing resleeved? im not a moron you cant pass up 1700 in parts for 1,000. Thanks for the help guys I just wanna get my car back on the road. <---for your time

laughinxxx

Damn, that's 2 hours out of my way. Make a post in the prelude forum. There are some guys from Mil there.

IloveNewt

just save up and get a good solid block ur sure about bro. Sumthin u dont wanna be iffy on.

BoostedH23a1

rings u dont reuse.. if the piston skirts are ok u can reuse the pistons just get new rings and make sure u bore your block to the right size

speedworks

same sleeves that are in my car. i have been getting my blocks done like that for about 300 dollars. this includes sleeves and labor. pistons with rings are around 450. usable block and crank about 350. the only real difference is the price of a set of rods.

shortyz

sleeving for 300$

uhh where and what kind.

ludesleep

its 400 in my town.. +40 per cylinder... guy in my town knows alot of people at darton and he said he could order me a pain and install for 400.

ninesecrx

Likes like some pretty good black death in one of those cycl. Id bet the piston is going to come out pretty scared as well. If you pull it apart, you can hone the walls, get s new set of rings and bead blast the side of the pistons where the score marks are and hope everything else is ok and good to go. Looks kinda bad in second pic. from the top. I guess you only really paid 500 bucks though which is good.

SEFIxCivic

hey mike, would you happen to have a picture of a fi piston in normal condition?