GForceInteg

Ok what i have = About to Rebuild any suggestions?

Internal Engine Work Performed

New Crank and Robs Bearings
Double shot pinged rods
JE/SRP 9.1:1 +.20 Oversized Pitons and Rings
STR Block Guard
Square decked block
Shaved head
Crower Double Spring Valve springs
Crower Titanium Retainers
Resurfaced Valves/seats

Engine Equipment And or gauges

B&M Fuel Pressure Regulator
B&M Fuel Pressure Gauge
AEM Cam Gears
Nology PC-10 Unit
Nology Plug Wires
Denso Iridium Plugs
Greddy T.V.V.C. Manual Boost controller
Greddy Type-S blow off valve
Greddy 18G Turbo Kit (Incuded Fuel Cont. Unit and RC 520cc injectors)
Greddy Small front mount intercooler
HKS Turbo Timer
Autometer Air/Fuel Gauge
Autometer Boost Pressure Gauge
Autometer Oil Pressure Gauge
Straight thru Cat.
Custom 2.5” exhaust brought to dual outs
APR Strut Brace

Interior/Exterior Dress Ups

APC Indeglow Gauges
Arospeed Pedal set
Momo shift ****
Autometer 2x Gauge pod
Custom Mounted Oil pressure gauge and boost controller
Kenwood 910 6.5” touch screen (DVD,TV,CD,MP3)
Bomex style Body kit (front molded)
APR aluminum Wing

Engine Settings

Fuel Pressure 52lbs/60@WOT
Intake Valves 2 degrees advanced
Exhaust Valves 2.5 degrees advanced
Blowoff valve Set @ 14lbs.
Boost pressure Reg. 7lbs. Street/14lbs. Strip
Ign. Timing Retarded 2 degrees
Spark plugs 2 degrees colder
Spark plug Gap .028 Gap

Near Future Mods after Ocean city Car Show (June 7th/8th)

I am Rebuilding again because after I won the Nopi Burnout at Maple Grove last year I started blowing oil pumps and I want to stabalize the amount of work into the car so the motor can handle the power with more reliability.

List of items im looking to add after OC show

MSD PN 8207
MSD 6462
MSD PN 32349
Moroso External Oil Pump system
Eagle Rods or Crower Turbo crank system including Crank rods and pistons. Depends on funds.
Fluidyne Radiator.
B16A Transmission swap for taller gear ratio. 4.40 Final

OK what havent i added or what else should be done.

Pics Below to show this is real.




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Modified by GForceInteg at 6:31 AM 5/20/2003

turbod16y8

umm what was the question????

Accord94DX

dispose of the front bumper and ungodly wheels and you will be faster.

love the engine, more than ill ever have

GForceInteg

Im looking for anyone with some knowledge to look over my setup and see if theres anything i missed. like a part i should have but dont, maybe someone who has had the same setup and found some problems, just some insite.

Cunstructive critisizm is always welcome but pointless remarks are exactly that Pointless. But for now please just helpful advice.

12.9@119 Um thats fast enough for me i just want to make sure i can keep doing it.

BrokenVtec

i am lost......what do you need help with.... other than getting rid of all that ricey **** on the car.....loose the bumper and those rims and it would look much better

GForceInteg

Why so many negatives about the bumper and wheels im lost?

Accord94DX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why so many negatives about the bumper and wheels im lost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

not a lot of people on here share the same taste as you.

i said it before, here it comes again, i love the engine.

GForceInteg

sorry didnt see the Engine part of the reply just hard getting help, all i get are opinions

intekragsr

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This post still seems kinda pointless, rather a post to show off your goodies..but anyhow, you asked for peoples opinions so here is mine.


- De-Rice the car. (apc, arospeed, ugly wing, ugly bumper or at least paint it a decent color.)

-Get something better than SRP pistons.
-Instead of "shot peening" your rods, just get some good beefy ones.
-Screw a block guard. If you want to do it right, re sleeve it at least. Stop taking shortcuts. With the money you spent on rice, you could have a good quality motor instead of shot peened stock rods and a crappy block guard.
-If you have already done headwork, why did you leave out a good port job?
-Ditch the greddy turbo and get a real turbo.
-Get a standalone
-Straight through cat meaning gutted? Gutted cats can make you lose power because of the turbulance it creates. Get yourself a high flow cat. Also gutted makes you sound like rice, but I guess it can compliment other mods.
-"B16A Transmission swap for taller gear ratio. 4.40 Final" Maybe your confused. To me it looks like you have gsr. A b16a tranny is not taller, it is shorter(good thing)

Theres my personal "IMO" constructive criticism. Good luck with the car. Seems like you have a lot of money laying around to throw into that car. BTW, is that a baby blue turbo manifold I see?

GForceInteg

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This post still seems kinda pointless, rather a post to show off your goodies..but anyhow, you asked for peoples opinions so here is mine.


- De-Rice the car. (apc, arospeed, ugly wing, ugly bumper or at least paint it a decent color.)

-Get something better than SRP pistons.
-Instead of "shot peening" your rods, just get some good beefy ones.
-Screw a block guard. If you want to do it right, re sleeve it at least. Stop taking shortcuts. With the money you spent on rice, you could have a good quality motor instead of shot peened stock rods and a crappy block guard.
-If you have already done headwork, why did you leave out a good port job?
-Ditch the greddy turbo and get a real turbo.
-Get a standalone
-Straight through cat meaning gutted? Gutted cats can make you lose power because of the turbulance it creates. Get yourself a high flow cat. Also gutted makes you sound like rice, but I guess it can compliment other mods.
-"B16A Transmission swap for taller gear ratio. 4.40 Final" Maybe your confused. To me it looks like you have gsr. A b16a tranny is not taller, it is shorter(good thing)

Theres my personal "IMO" constructive criticism. Good luck with the car. Seems like you have a lot of money laying around to throw into that car. BTW, is that a baby blue turbo manifold I see?
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Um i guess you have not seen body work performed before eh? (picture) yeah paint is coming.

Apc, arospeed RICE? its a gauge face and a pedal set yeah many other manufacturers pedals look so differant.

SRP = Fordged Problem is?

Shot peened is well enough for the 14lbs.

Resleeve? finally something worth reading.

Port done just not listed.

Ditch the Greddy um yeah.... No comment

Sorry should have been more descriptive. I custom made my cat with 2.5" exhaust tubing.

B16A http://www.bseries.net/html/specs/btrannyspecs.php

Comon guys looking for something useful not opinions. Ok you dont like the look you dont like some of the parts. Bragging um yeah that comment only makes someone sound jealous. IM LOOKING FOR HELP. why wouldnt i post everythign i had.

Ok so maybe some ?'s would be better.

How about obd-1 whats the benifits?

V-Afc good enough fuel control?

Do i need to go down to 9:1:1?

Sp33dStarVirus

You are blowing oil pumps because of your thrust washer! Change that are you shouldn't have a problem with your oil pump blowings.

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

hahahaahaha....the bigger the number, the shorter the gear.

NO offense, but it seems to me that you are coming off as being Hard headed and don't like what people tell you. IF this is true, why even post this question.

This post does seem kinda pointless to me.

my opinions are gonna be teh same as the others.

1. lose the rice
2. sleeve the damn motor
3. get beefier rods
4. get a real fuel management system(i.e. AEM, Autronic, hondata, DFI)plus a bigger pump
5. lose the blue manifold
6. keep the GSR tranny or give it to me.
7. again, lose the rice

obd1 ecu's can be messed around with, obd2 ecu's can't. Plus there is less emissions crap with the obd1 setup

and no, you don't have to go down to 9:1 compsression.

Casey

iTrader: (5)

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Ditch the Greddy um yeah.... No comment

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why no comment? 18g is a good eclipse turbo, not a good turbo for making good power on a honda(if you like top end). Hondata would also be nice to have with a nice motor setup.

GForceInteg

Thrust washer?

GForceInteg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paul_Vang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaahaha....the bigger the number, the shorter the gear.

NO offense, but it seems to me that you are coming off as being Hard headed and don't like what people tell you. IF this is true, why even post this question.

This post does seem kinda pointless to me.

my opinions are gonna be teh same as the others.

1. lose the rice
2. sleeve the damn motor
3. get beefier rods
4. get a real fuel management system(i.e. AEM, Autronic, hondata, DFI)plus a bigger pump
5. lose the blue manifold
6. keep the GSR tranny or give it to me.
7. again, lose the rice

obd1 ecu's can be messed around with, obd2 ecu's can't. Plus there is less emissions crap with the obd1 setup

and no, you don't have to go down to 9:1 compsression.</TD></TR></TABLE>


What compression would you recommend, i am wanting to se the 18g for what it is and be able to run the 22lbs if needed.

GForceInteg

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why no comment? 18g is a good eclipse turbo, not a good turbo for making good power on a honda(if you like top end). Hondata would also be nice to have with a nice motor setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What is Hondata?

And thanks guys this is the information i was looking for. The opinions just got on my nerves because im so tired of everyone critisizing me. This is my car, everyones is differant, im just looking for these last few comments which i had no idea about. like the guy saying im tryign to show off, how is anyone going to help with my car if they dont know whats on it?

thrust washer?

Hondata?

Compression needed?

I thought my underdrive pully was the reasoning for the oil pumps blowing, at least that what the company which manufactures aftermarket oil gears told me.




Modified by GForceInteg at 4:48 AM 5/21/2003

Casey

iTrader: (5)

hondata is a tuning program that is much better than a vafc. It works on obd1 vtec ecus, isnt that exspensive, and is a wise investment. <A HREF="http://www.hondata.com
" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hondata.com
</A>

T3

Greddy T.V.V.C. Manual Boost controller
Autometer Oil Pressure Gauge
Oil pressure gauge and boost controller



Get rid of the Autometer Air/Fuel Gauge cause they suck..I would get a greddy egt.

Get 3" instead of 2.5" exhaust.

A turbo timer isnt needed unless ur to lazy to let ur car idle.

APC Indeglow Gauges
Arospeed Pedal set
Momo shift ****
Autometer 2x Gauge pod
Custom Mounted Oil pressure gauge and boost controller
Kenwood 910 6.5” touch screen (DVD,TV,CD,MP3)
Bomex style Body kit (front molded)
APR aluminum Wing

That stuff is gay..Why would you beef up a car and make it look like every other pos rice car in the city?All that **** does is makes ur car look shity and adds weight..

Were your friends helping you put on the new stickers? LOL

GForceInteg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Greddy T.V.V.C. Manual Boost controller
Autometer Oil Pressure Gauge
Oil pressure gauge and boost controller



Get rid of the Autometer Air/Fuel Gauge cause they suck..I would get a greddy egt.

Get 3" instead of 2.5" exhaust.

A turbo timer isnt needed unless ur to lazy to let ur car idle.

APC Indeglow Gauges
Arospeed Pedal set
Momo shift ****
Autometer 2x Gauge pod
Custom Mounted Oil pressure gauge and boost controller
Kenwood 910 6.5” touch screen (DVD,TV,CD,MP3)
Bomex style Body kit (front molded)
APR aluminum Wing

That stuff is gay..Why would you beef up a car and make it look like every other pos rice car in the city?All that **** does is makes ur car look shity and adds weight..

Were your friends helping you put on the new stickers? LOL
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Ok Im gone guys thanks for nothing. Im finding 99% of you people on this forum either have no brains or no respect. We each build our cars to our own style, i was asking for your help and all you imature people can do is tear up my car. I dont have money laying around but im about to redo this engine with a bang so when you find me at track FEAR THE RICE. Good luck with eveything you do.

shortyz

dood your a ******* *******. someone gives you real factual comments and suggestions and u tell them they know nothing..


YOUR A FUCKTARD. **** off, dick!

someone should make a :fuckingmoron: smilie thing. this post pisses me off.


******* ricer.

bottlefedb18c1

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Ok Im gone guys thanks for nothing. Im finding 99% of you people on this forum either have no brains or no respect. We each build our cars to our own style, i was asking for your help and all you imature people can do is tear up my car. I dont have money laying around but im about to redo this engine with a bang so when you find me at track FEAR THE RICE. Good luck with eveything you do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fear the rice whya dont you come into my area so you can get smoked up by a white hatch with primer hood and fenders and a lighter color white door and 2 different set of wheels think about it

dont think about it like how you thought about not painting your front bumber before you put it on

ekb18c

Get better rods. (eg. pauter, crower, or even eagles are better then your rods.)

Get yourself a engine manangment system. (eg hondata. http://www.hondata.com)

Forget block guard get it sleeved (eg http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com)

Symptom - Oil pump keeps getting FUBAR
Solution - thrust bearings are bad!! Change them.
What are thrust bearings? *( http://www.google.com search for thrust bearings )

Shaved head? Get a wig! LOL You mean milled head? Well then dont forget to compensate the timing.

B&M fpr - NO GOOD. Never had any luck with them. Get yourself a Aeromotive or Aem.

Ditch the nology and get yourself a MSD

Get a 3" inch exhaust system for better air flow. 2.5 wont let the turbo breath.

Interior/Exterior Dress Ups - "To each their own". I personally don't like that kind of stuff but hey....

"Blowoff valve Set @ 14lbs." - hmmm I never knew blow off valves can control boost.

Fuel pressure is a bit high! Get yourself a engine management system.
*See engine management systems above.*

GForceInteg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekb18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get better rods. (eg. pauter, crower, or even eagles are better then your rods.)

Get yourself a engine manangment system. (eg hondata. http://www.hondata.com)

Forget block guard get it sleeved (eg http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com)

Symptom - Oil pump keeps getting FUBAR
Solution - thrust bearings are bad!! Change them.
What are thrust bearings? *( http://www.google.com search for thrust bearings )

Shaved head? Get a wig! LOL You mean milled head? Well then dont forget to compensate the timing.

B&M fpr - NO GOOD. Never had any luck with them. Get yourself a Aeromotive or Aem.

Ditch the nology and get yourself a MSD

Get a 3" inch exhaust system for better air flow. 2.5 wont let the turbo breath.

Interior/Exterior Dress Ups - "To each their own". I personally don't like that kind of stuff but hey....

"Blowoff valve Set @ 14lbs." - hmmm I never knew blow off valves can control boost.

Fuel pressure is a bit high! Get yourself a engine management system.
*See engine management systems above.*


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Thats for being a part of the 2% who are here to actually help people out. Yeh i have a list in my original post of stuff i am about to purchase like full msd ignition Rods or possibly the crower $1600 setup price qoutei got(includes crank,rods,pistons). What i meant about the blow off being set is just that its adjustable so i had to set it down to allow the intake in keep 14lbs in there. wo when i run anything less its use becomes less effective. But again thanks for you information. I was lokoing at the Hondata but it seems like it is only for the obd-I. Should i get the obd-I instead casue i have plenty of acces to one and how hard would it be to changeover.

Casey

iTrader: (5)

its not hard to convert to obd1, and hondata is the best bang for the buck

symba

Hondata would be a very smart move, but keep in mind that once you do that you MUST have it tuned. Tuning is the key here. Without good tuning, you will still hurt your engine. Conversion from obdII - obdI is pretty simple. Again, just a money issue. You need a obd2-obd1 harness and then an obd1 ecu. Not sure if you can run with a p28, check the hondata website but if you can then you can get a p28 with an obd1 connector already attached. check out this link and give Kyle a call. He will hook you up.
http://www.ks-motorsports.com/...4722f


Hondata can be used with obdII but its so expensive that it's not really a viable option with other ems available for obdII ecus. (AEM EMS)