This oil drain isnt gonna work too good, is it?
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This oil drain isnt gonna work too good, is it?
Hey guys, here's my story
I got my oil pan taped and welded at a local shop. When i droped the pan off, i showed them where i wanted it to be taped at ( just before the oil pan becomes shallow). Well, i come to pick it up the next day, and they have welded it in the wrong spot. It's about 5-6inchs to the right of where i wanted it. NOW my probelms is my oil drain is becoming crazy horizontal. I just wanted to reaffirm with honda-tech guru's that this isnt gonna work.
looking straight up
looking from the side profile
looking from diagonal
looking from another angle
I had to use a 45 and a 90 for this too even fit. The drain is also touching the dp if that matters....
what do you think?
I think i need to get the shop to reweld it for free.. this is rediculous
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and now because im a proud new owner of a boosted coupe.. here's my pic of my setup.
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:56 PM 3/26/2005
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:56 PM 3/26/2005
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:57 PM 3/26/2005
I got my oil pan taped and welded at a local shop. When i droped the pan off, i showed them where i wanted it to be taped at ( just before the oil pan becomes shallow). Well, i come to pick it up the next day, and they have welded it in the wrong spot. It's about 5-6inchs to the right of where i wanted it. NOW my probelms is my oil drain is becoming crazy horizontal. I just wanted to reaffirm with honda-tech guru's that this isnt gonna work.
looking straight up
looking from the side profile
looking from diagonal
looking from another angle
I had to use a 45 and a 90 for this too even fit. The drain is also touching the dp if that matters....
what do you think?
I think i need to get the shop to reweld it for free.. this is rediculous
<hr>
and now because im a proud new owner of a boosted coupe.. here's my pic of my setup.
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:56 PM 3/26/2005
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:56 PM 3/26/2005
Modified by iGfrequency at 6:57 PM 3/26/2005
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I think if you don't paint your down pipe it will rust and get crappy. I wouldnt want to have it touching the DP either...and Im not sure what could happen from having the oil return line to horizontal but just get it relocated becuase if you paid them to do a job, get it done right. They are your bitches if your throwing down the money...if they are paying for everything fincially then they have all the say, but as long as you are the supplier..your boss. There is no argument.
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Re: This oil drain isnt gonna work too good, is it? (iGfrequency)
i would go around the d/p and get a fire sleeve for it , you will be ok if you run it that way , but you dont want it to touch the d/p
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would go around the d/p and get a fire sleeve for it , you will be ok if you run it that way , but you dont want it to touch the d/p </TD></TR></TABLE>
you dont think it's too horizontal?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BluSiBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if you don't paint your down pipe it will rust and get crappy. QUOTE]
dont feel like getting it powercoated, but would high temp spray paint do the job?
[QUOTE=BluSiBoy]They are your bitches if your throwing down the money...if they are paying for everything fincially then they have all the say, but as long as you are the supplier..your boss. There is no argument.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what i think. Their excuse was "no that's where you told use to put it, plus that's where WE always put it for our setups." their setup does not equal my setup. that's the lamest excuse ever
im gonna work them till i can get redone for no charge...
you dont think it's too horizontal?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BluSiBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if you don't paint your down pipe it will rust and get crappy. QUOTE]
dont feel like getting it powercoated, but would high temp spray paint do the job?
[QUOTE=BluSiBoy]They are your bitches if your throwing down the money...if they are paying for everything fincially then they have all the say, but as long as you are the supplier..your boss. There is no argument.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what i think. Their excuse was "no that's where you told use to put it, plus that's where WE always put it for our setups." their setup does not equal my setup. that's the lamest excuse ever
im gonna work them till i can get redone for no charge...
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Just re-weld it proper ... The picture you have is a problem for disaster, braided line or not the hot heat will destroy that line.. You need a rubber return that can handle heat, that russle hose aint going to cut it........
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i think im gonna show ulitmate this thread with all your guys opinions just as back up for my arguement if i need it.
thanks your help guys, appriciated
thanks your help guys, appriciated
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Re: This oil drain isnt gonna work too good, is it? (iGfrequency)
i had mine set up like that except it went in front of the dp, and car has been smoking like a train, turns out the turbo i just had rebuilt is w less than 500 miles seals went bad from having the oil return like that
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my oil return line was rubbing on my downpipe for about 6 months, I just wrapped the downpipe and oil return line in the exhaust wrap and it worked fine :lol:
I wouldn't recommend it though, but it should be ok for a temp setup
I wouldn't recommend it though, but it should be ok for a temp setup
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i just know oil drain is gravity fed, but is there enough angle there for gravity to do it's job? i wish my oil like was clear so i could see if it's working in there.
How long would that ss line last touching the dp ?
How long would that ss line last touching the dp ?
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If it's big enough and flows down...like they say, **** runs down hill - same principal. The bigger problem is the heat - heat rises, as well as expands. Turbo'd engines already have warm oil, why heat it more?
I'd go to the shop owner, make a big stink, and show how they fucked up. Maybe threaten to take them to small claims because you got charged for a weld that they fucked up on, one that could (and people here can atest to) destroy your turbo. Just make sure that next time you chip the paint off the spot you want the weld - unless its a one-man shop, the location is bound to get lost in the communication. I think we all know that welders aren't the brain trust of America (j/k!)
IMO the cost of rewelding isn't high enough to risk it, unless you got that turbo for free and are waiting for a reason to change it.
I'd go to the shop owner, make a big stink, and show how they fucked up. Maybe threaten to take them to small claims because you got charged for a weld that they fucked up on, one that could (and people here can atest to) destroy your turbo. Just make sure that next time you chip the paint off the spot you want the weld - unless its a one-man shop, the location is bound to get lost in the communication. I think we all know that welders aren't the brain trust of America (j/k!)
IMO the cost of rewelding isn't high enough to risk it, unless you got that turbo for free and are waiting for a reason to change it.
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my return line is touching my dp. been fine for almost a year now. its braided. i looked at it few weeks ago jus to check up on it. it looks a lil black or "burnt" as you could call it but it didn't burn thought and it seems fine.
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that doesnt look good. cant you angle the 90 fitting on the pan up more and then cut the line shorter so it goes more downhill? looks like you could. my greddy setup came with this heat wrapping stuff to wrap my oil return line. i have bunch leftover i could sell you cheap.
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Re: This oil drain isnt gonna work too good, is it? (boostedcivicsir)
definitely either wrap the downpipe (more recommended) or get a fire sleeve for the oil return.
I did both.
just a fyi, where they welded it IS where most people put it. Because the oil pan gets deeper there.
I did both.
just a fyi, where they welded it IS where most people put it. Because the oil pan gets deeper there.