New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned!
02-08-2004, 11:16 AM
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New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned!
I made a trip to Houston to visit St00pid.
My previous Dyno on a Completly stock LS I made 264&231@11psi.
This trip i made 302&254@16psi....completly stock.
Set up:
sc34
inline pro manifold
Rc 550's
Hondata s200b
2.5-3in Greddy Power extreme Exhuast
I think that's all the important things. I have my dyno sheet but i don't have a scanner now, When i get one I will post the sheet.
BTW. Don't tap your rev limiter when you have a lot of power and fuel cut.= blown motor. I popped the spark plug wire off the distributor, after i hit fuel cut several times and popped it. The timing and the whole tune was pretty conservative, that's how we were able to pull the boost up.
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:15 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:16 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:21 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:24 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:31 PM 2/12/2004
My previous Dyno on a Completly stock LS I made 264&231@11psi.
This trip i made 302&254@16psi....completly stock.
Set up:
sc34
inline pro manifold
Rc 550's
Hondata s200b
2.5-3in Greddy Power extreme Exhuast
I think that's all the important things. I have my dyno sheet but i don't have a scanner now, When i get one I will post the sheet.
BTW. Don't tap your rev limiter when you have a lot of power and fuel cut.= blown motor. I popped the spark plug wire off the distributor, after i hit fuel cut several times and popped it. The timing and the whole tune was pretty conservative, that's how we were able to pull the boost up.
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:15 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:16 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:21 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:24 PM 2/12/2004
Modified by HybridcivicLS-T at 6:31 PM 2/12/2004
02-08-2004, 11:21 AM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (HybridcivicLS-T)
very nice he also did one of my customers car's the silver hatch 366@20psi we were very satified with jason have to more super builds going on at the shop and will have jason work his magic again. thanks you much J.
02-08-2004, 11:28 AM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (turbo96wr)
why is the hondata rev limiter unsafe? I want aware of that. I dont think i ever hit it before but id like to know why its bad.
02-08-2004, 11:34 AM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (g2turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is the hondata rev limiter unsafe? I want aware of that. I dont think i ever hit it before but id like to know why its bad. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (HybridcivicLS-T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridcivicLS-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesn't the factory limiter cut fuel also? I dont think it actually cuts the amount of fuel cause that would be stupid. It cuts ALL fuel like every other engine cycle or something. Without any fuel you can't be lean...there wont be any combustion.
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesn't the factory limiter cut fuel also? I dont think it actually cuts the amount of fuel cause that would be stupid. It cuts ALL fuel like every other engine cycle or something. Without any fuel you can't be lean...there wont be any combustion.
02-08-2004, 12:31 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (HybridcivicLS-T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridcivicLS-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes but by cutting the fuel, you are not just lowering the amount of fuel. The fuel cut ELIMINATES fuel, stops it completely. The injectors stop opening. Without fuel you cannot run lean, you're not running at all. See what I'm saying?
you cut fuel.....when you cut fuel you lean out. therefore blowing your rings.....
RIngs give out becuase you beat the crap out of them or your lean. I went teribbly lean becuase i set on the rev limiter.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes but by cutting the fuel, you are not just lowering the amount of fuel. The fuel cut ELIMINATES fuel, stops it completely. The injectors stop opening. Without fuel you cannot run lean, you're not running at all. See what I'm saying?
02-08-2004, 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes but by cutting the fuel, you are not just lowering the amount of fuel. The fuel cut ELIMINATES fuel, stops it completely. The injectors stop opening. Without fuel you cannot run lean, you're not running at all. See what I'm saying?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i thought also.
Yes but by cutting the fuel, you are not just lowering the amount of fuel. The fuel cut ELIMINATES fuel, stops it completely. The injectors stop opening. Without fuel you cannot run lean, you're not running at all. See what I'm saying?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i thought also.
02-08-2004, 01:41 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (g2turbo)
Nice numbers. Any dyno graphs? I just want to see what the powerband looks like.
When you hit the fuel cut, the engine still runs.
When you hit the fuel cut, the engine still runs.
02-08-2004, 03:18 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (specie)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice numbers. Any dyno graphs? I just want to see what the powerband looks like.
When you hit the fuel cut, the engine still runs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends how you define 'runs'. It's still turning, sure, but it's not getting any fuel, it's not producing and power, so in essence it really isn't running untill the fuel comes back into play.
When you hit the fuel cut, the engine still runs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends how you define 'runs'. It's still turning, sure, but it's not getting any fuel, it's not producing and power, so in essence it really isn't running untill the fuel comes back into play.
02-08-2004, 03:42 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (HybridcivicLS-T)
damn good #'s
at what boost level does the 34 start to level off at?
what do ur IDC's look like?
at what boost level does the 34 start to level off at?
what do ur IDC's look like?
02-08-2004, 03:51 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (Johnyquest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnyquest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no fuel = no damage. The engine is, in essence, off.
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The problem is, it doesn't cut the fuel by stopping the injectors from pulsing. It cuts the fuel by shutting off the fuel pump.....so if there isn't enoug fuel in the line for you to meet your target A/F, you will be lean.
~Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>
The problem is, it doesn't cut the fuel by stopping the injectors from pulsing. It cuts the fuel by shutting off the fuel pump.....so if there isn't enoug fuel in the line for you to meet your target A/F, you will be lean.
02-08-2004, 04:05 PM
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To say a fuel cut rev limit is safe is bad info in my opinion. You can't be gaurenteed that there is absolutly no fuel in the cylanders. A lean condition is definately a danger. The only safe rev limit is fuel/spark cut.
02-08-2004, 04:19 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (Dr Pooface)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To say a fuel cut rev limit is safe is bad info in my opinion. You can't be gaurenteed that there is absolutly no fuel in the cylanders. A lean condition is definately a danger. The only safe rev limit is fuel/spark cut.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only good cut is ignition...i don't like fuel cut. you lean out horribly. WHne your pushing 300hp into a motor and no fuel is there...it leans out.
The only good cut is ignition...i don't like fuel cut. you lean out horribly. WHne your pushing 300hp into a motor and no fuel is there...it leans out.
02-08-2004, 04:21 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (Mr.DC2TurBo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.DC2TurBo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice #s.. when do you start building full boost? 5K?</TD></TR></TABLE>
more like 4200 or so.
more like 4200 or so.
02-08-2004, 04:32 PM
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Re: New Dyno results------>st00pid tooned! (HybridcivicLS-T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridcivicLS-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only good cut is ignition...i don't like fuel cut. you lean out horribly. WHne your pushing 300hp into a motor and no fuel is there...it leans out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice number Hybrid. That extra 40 horse you probably fell in love with. I would be curious to see what your timing maps look like. If you can post, that would be sweet.
On another note, I have hit my revlimiter on my Hondata hundres of times with 13 psi on a stock D16Z motor. The motor is fine. I have never heard of a case where the fuel-cut revlimiter cause a ring failure. Speak up and prove me wrong somebody if this has happend.
The only good cut is ignition...i don't like fuel cut. you lean out horribly. WHne your pushing 300hp into a motor and no fuel is there...it leans out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice number Hybrid. That extra 40 horse you probably fell in love with. I would be curious to see what your timing maps look like. If you can post, that would be sweet.
On another note, I have hit my revlimiter on my Hondata hundres of times with 13 psi on a stock D16Z motor. The motor is fine. I have never heard of a case where the fuel-cut revlimiter cause a ring failure. Speak up and prove me wrong somebody if this has happend.