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Old 04-05-2005, 06:02 PM
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Ok i have a gsr that i recently built with a new .20 pistons and rods,balanced crank , new oil pump , new water pump. I primed the engine a couple of times and the put the spark plugs and fuel pump connector back on. It turned over about 3 times, didnt fire, then it just stopped. The fuel pump wont come on and the starter wont activate. So i got a brand new battery, tested the starter, got a new main relay and still nothing happens. I was reading in my manuel about if the the motor goes under 4.3 psi of oil pressure the fuel pump wont turn on? But i have no idea what is goin on, any help would be greatly appreciated....Thanks
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oil pressure sender is most definately not wired to the fuel pump.

It won't turn over at all? Not even a click?
Old 04-05-2005, 07:15 PM
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Nope nothin at alll, no buzz from the fuel pump , i have headlights and interior lights thats it .
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Hmm... check fuses + grounds I guess.
Old 04-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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Thats all been done, its just weird it was doing it then just stopped..Thats why i thought it was the main relay, but it wasnt
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Hmm try manually tripping the starter solenoid by jumping it to the battery... heh.
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already did that with a screwdriver, and a wire....nothing happened though , advanced auto did it when i took it out and it Worked! WTF
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Engine bay ground wires are hooked up?
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yeh , im gonna sand them all down.......but that wouldnt have to deal with the fuel pump not turning on would it ?
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Bump for some answers
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Is the ECU plugged in...? does it have power? does the main relay click?
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ecu is plugged in , main relay does not click ...not sure if the ecu is gettin power or not
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this might be a dumb question but there are 3 wires connected to the starter right? Power, ground and a signal wire?
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No.. +12v constant and starter solenoid... no ground. It gets ground through the engine.
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i would take a socket and breaker bar and try turning the crank over by hand
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ok thats what i thought , my friend was arguing with me
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already turned the motor over by hand many times
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for the fuel pump check all connections but shouldnt make it so engine wont turn over it just wont start
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i used a jumper wire in the main relay harness to turn the fuel pump on...it turns on then, but the main relay is good so i dont know whats goin on
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interesting... just signing up, anything usefull comes to mind I'll let you know. good luck!
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it sounds like ypour ecu?
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thats what me and john are talkin about at the moment , but it should have nothing to do with the starter
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i dont see how the main relay can be good and when i jump the fuel pump it works , it still seems like the relay is not doing its job, but when i hooked it up to my batt it worked fine
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no ecu codes? I had a bad ecu which didn't kick the fuel pump on. i had a solid code on my ecu, no flashes. put in a ecu from another car and it fired right up. didn't have any problems with starter though, maybe there's a starter fuse or relay or connection bad
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oh yeah I saw a thread about people blowing some voltage regulater in the ECU, which prevents the fuel pump to turn on... you should check that out at least, open the ecu...

now that I think of it, not sure if it was a capacitor that burns out instead, I'll try to find the thread.


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