FredoSP

Hey FI gus .. just wanted to share the dyno's that I can across on the web, this is NOT a "Neon Sucks/Rules Debate" I just wanted to share what I found. - Fred

* Please not this was taken from a personal web site from Tampa, FL
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/dyno.htm

DYNO results from 2/22/03

770 total miles on car

Air temp approx 75

Engine temp 160 to 200

No water or special cooling on intercooler

Best out of 3 runs: 220.4 hp 247.2 torque






Edit: fixed the pics, sorry, damm webserver!


[Modified by FredoSP, 9:54 AM 2/25/2003]

genop

pics dont work....

FredoSP

haha i just noticed the A/F looks like the GReddy Blue box, hhmmm maybe it is

EDIT: These #'s are STD, not SAE, so I guess theres a correction factor


[Modified by FredoSP, 8:54 AM 2/25/2003]

Freakn8

those are some nice numbers

Kevin

damn play with the fuel and it will get even better

JRSCCivic98

Ummm, I'm no genius in any way, but why is it that the hp/torque curves don't intersect at 5250rpm like they do on everything else I've seen? And why is the graph all over the place? That thing looks like it's got *** for fuel management cuz the last time I saw a graph like that it came from a car that was detonating and missfireing. Hummm, maybe that fuel curve has something to do with it.... Talk about overkill huh? Maybe it's that high cuz they knew the ricers would add a 50shot of dry juice to it.

FredoSP

Okay lets get one thing straight, you think ANY car company would put out a car that's detonating from the factory, nahhhh. Secondly, there are curve smoothness settings that you can do via the dynojet software, maybe it wasn't do, who knows.

As far as the TQ, who the heck knows, but Dodge kept the A/F like this to keep it safe, BOTTOM line. MOPAR is coming out with a little upgrade package which includes a chip and some otherthings while u can still keep the cars factory warranty, IMO not bad for $19,995 which is what this person paid, if you go to the link above and chop off whats after the last slash you'll see pics and whatnot.

- Fred

PWRVTEC

Damn there is more power in that thing if you look at that A/F graph....

bruthaboost

Yeah, those are some nice numbers. I wonder what they will be producing with basic upgrades. I can see it now. Turbo neons revving everywhere.

JRSCCivic98

Sounds to me like someone wants to get one of these things. Sorry if my post kicked you in the *****. And for your info, anyone that uses smoothness settings on a dyno graph to hide detonation or misfires is ghey. I guess next you'll tell me that this was done on 87 octane gas too huh?

It still doesn't explain why the graph doesn't intersect at 5250. It's a mathematical formula that torque and hp curves intersect at that rpm. I guess I'm trying to say that I don't buy the graph.

Here's a cold for your nuts. Sorry I kicked you so hard...

Peace.

FredoSP

dude u gotta get a life, I give props to Dodge I'm not one of those stunaz that thinks everything that isn't a Honda sucks, not saying you are, but you know where im going with this.

Anyways .. maybe this wasnt a 4th gear pull, maybe this was WOT in gears 1-4, so they guy could get down his shift points - who knows, buy I'm with you on the TQ its shady. I'm sure Art, Chris, Joe, or John would have more input to this cause no way am I that familiar with dyno settings etc.

I'm just sharing this info with everyone, no need to get ur patines in a bunch

[EDIT] Post the mathematical Formula, I'd like to take alook at it. Maybe the one you have is dependent on other factors, I have no idea, but I'm willing to learn.


[Modified by FredoSP, 9:41 AM 2/25/2003]

The_Head

The graph looks very similar to a DSM Turbo Motor's output, just more.

STEALTHMODECOUPE

has anyone seen how small the turbo is?? its tiny, and for making numbers like that i give it a

adaM

FredoSP

Heres my Dyno .. 5250 .. hmm maybe ill look on google

FredoSP

Mitsubishi TD04 Turbocharger that boosts anywhere from 11 to 14 psi

STEALTHMODECOUPE

really, wow..thanks for the info

adaM

FredoSP

I got it here

http://www.allpar.com/neon/neon-srt-4.html

STEALTHMODECOUPE

yea cause me and my friend (Hxman) were at the chicago auto show and they had nice engine displays for dodge motors and we saw the turbo and were like this thing makes that much power!

adaM

stick

i wonder what mitsu TDO4?
13G which is the same as WRX
or 16G.

not bad #'s for the neon. luckily they have a 2.4L for all that torque but no LSD.

damn im gonna get revved on everywhere now

FredoSP

Hey Adam, tell Levi (HXMan) that Fred says "What's up" His Cluster insert w/ the Boost and A/F gauges got a good home

STEALTHMODECOUPE

no problem man

adaM

Xscream

I give Mopar respect for going back to the turbo setups of the late 80's. 20k seems a bit high though for that much you could get a Y Body, F Body or differnt platform but I guess that wouldn't be a sport compact then.

Good looking dyno charts (HP/TQ Wise) it looks like there is a ton more HP to be gained though on the AF. Do you have a aftermarket fuel management?? It almost looks like you have a ignition issue becuase of the peaks and valleys going up the curve.

JRSCCivic98

No matter what you say I'm automatically right because I'm olden then you are. J/K

Hey, no doubt I give props to Dodge too for finally making something worth a **** other then a 70k car with a truck motor in it that halls ***. Anyway, for what it is and for what the price is I agree with everyone that this is one hell of a car. No doubt about that when you take a look at all the factors involved. However, would I get on my knees and bow to it... prolly not. I guess I'm just not a big fan of the Neon. I just don't like the way it looks. Does this make me not have a life?... stop saying that!!! My Civic is the shiznit dawg!

Anyway, more power to the ones that want to get the new SRT4. It's a hell of a deal for that amount of money. Personally I'll pick the new STi over it. 2.5L Turbo 4 with 300hp and 300tq. But then again you get what you pay for...

BTW, I'll try to find that formula, but it's the standard hp or tq solving formula used.

inspyral

I think it's:
tq x RPM/5252 = hp
or something like that

sgT

Different scales.

Smoothing is probably on 1.