Need turbo info Schwitzer Turbo
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Re: Need turbo info Schwitzer Turbo
okay doing some research about the turbo and a HX40 comes off an 6.9 liter and the s300 is off a 7.6 liter and I was wondering how this would do on a LS/Vtec
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8.2241995-D0826LF01/LFL/LUH
(6.9)269
SchwitzerNavistar-1996-03DTA466
(7.6)273 D
P/N 167338
MOD S300S-024
S/N J2599 006
The center housing has cast in it 699956 IR
The compressor housing has cast in it A 060 C
The turbine housing has cast in it 667984 130-372
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8.2241995-D0826LF01/LFL/LUH
(6.9)269
SchwitzerNavistar-1996-03DTA466
(7.6)273 D
P/N 167338
MOD S300S-024
S/N J2599 006
The center housing has cast in it 699956 IR
The compressor housing has cast in it A 060 C
The turbine housing has cast in it 667984 130-372
DUC -A-
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Re: Need turbo info Schwitzer Turbo
Those are the box units that are available. In many cases you will still need to weld the correct slip fit exhaust outlet flange to work on 3" or 4" applications. Instead of simply give the partnumber (as the OEM has a different database than the Aftermarket models) please give the inducer/ exducer measurements of the compressor wheel and exhaust wheel.
When you're doing a comparison of what truck it came off of, please remember this:
90% of the models off of the OEM do NOT do well on the Honda engines because the exhaust wheel is over double the size of the compressor wheel. This design allows for a quick punch of torque and very little top end power if at all. Tractors, bigger diesel applications all use this configuration for those reasons. Even the full HX40 has been only used as an option for those that want top end power only as a use, and not for any broad torque or powerband on a sub 3.0 litre application. If this is from E-bay, integration will be difficult at best, as you need to find the appropriate flanges and downpipe clamps from a John Deere supplier. That in itself gets interesting.
Bottom line... With the applications in the aftermarket that are available today (unlike 10 years ago.) you wind up spending $500 to save $50 on the cost of the OEM and box units. There are Switzer and Borg-Warner turbos that are specifically made for smaller displacement engines. Talk w/ a Borg/Warner - Dealer/ distributor, or I can give you a hand on your application. You need 1) a budget (willingness to spend on a turbo) 2) your LS/VTEC build 3) desired power level, 4) use of the car.. street/strip, drag race only, etc.
When you're doing a comparison of what truck it came off of, please remember this:
90% of the models off of the OEM do NOT do well on the Honda engines because the exhaust wheel is over double the size of the compressor wheel. This design allows for a quick punch of torque and very little top end power if at all. Tractors, bigger diesel applications all use this configuration for those reasons. Even the full HX40 has been only used as an option for those that want top end power only as a use, and not for any broad torque or powerband on a sub 3.0 litre application. If this is from E-bay, integration will be difficult at best, as you need to find the appropriate flanges and downpipe clamps from a John Deere supplier. That in itself gets interesting.
Bottom line... With the applications in the aftermarket that are available today (unlike 10 years ago.) you wind up spending $500 to save $50 on the cost of the OEM and box units. There are Switzer and Borg-Warner turbos that are specifically made for smaller displacement engines. Talk w/ a Borg/Warner - Dealer/ distributor, or I can give you a hand on your application. You need 1) a budget (willingness to spend on a turbo) 2) your LS/VTEC build 3) desired power level, 4) use of the car.. street/strip, drag race only, etc.
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Re: Need turbo info Schwitzer Turbo
I'm asking for the compressor size and things like that now. I would like to speed 4-5 hundred on a used new turbo. street/strip car and a b16 head and gsr cams skunk intake adj cam gears and 81.5mm bore and the exhaust wheel doesn't look that big in the pic
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Don't let the pic fool you. ask the seller for inducer and exducer wheel sizes to be sure. This looks like that larger S300 (but don't know what compressor wheel it is. It could be a number of combinations from that pic. We're trying to help, but you gotta help us by getting more information
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Its a 270hp turbo, 59mm compressor. The turbine looks pretty large in relation to the compressor. Like Shodan said, if it comes off a diesel its probably designed for torque. Big turbine for big displacement, small compressor for torque and low RPM power.
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Hey here's what the guy wrote me
Hi
As near as I can tell the diameter of the exhaust impeller is about 3 inches at the base measuring across from one vane to the opposite vane and about 2.62 inches across the top measuring from the edge of one vane to the edge of the opposite vane.
As near as I can tell the diameter of the intake impeller is about 3.28 inches at the base and about 2.3 inches across the at the top of the vanes measuring from the edge of one vane to the edge of the opposite vane.
think 3 inches is about 76.2 mm
2.62 inches is about 66.5 mm
3.28 inches is about 97 mm
2.3 inches is about 58.5 mm
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As near as I can tell the diameter of the exhaust impeller is about 3 inches at the base measuring across from one vane to the opposite vane and about 2.62 inches across the top measuring from the edge of one vane to the edge of the opposite vane.
As near as I can tell the diameter of the intake impeller is about 3.28 inches at the base and about 2.3 inches across the at the top of the vanes measuring from the edge of one vane to the edge of the opposite vane.
think 3 inches is about 76.2 mm
2.62 inches is about 66.5 mm
3.28 inches is about 97 mm
2.3 inches is about 58.5 mm
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Other than some of the Holset series, you'll pay more in weld flanges for the turbine and elbow than anything else trying to "just fit" the car. You'll then spend countless hours online wasting time trying to find people who are trying to be just as "ecentric" as you are in your use of a cheaper alternative. There are Holsets out there that can work, but you have to expect that your needs won't be met much at all, unless it is for top end power. As for the BW series, time to give me a pm w/ a list of your needs, goals, budget (anything under $600, no one can really help you unless used), and what you're looking to do.
That turbo's a box unit truck turbocharger. with that distance b/w the inducer / exducer, no wonder it is in a huge compressor cover. That's like equivalent to larger than a S359. I don't think you're going to like that at all.
That turbo's a box unit truck turbocharger. with that distance b/w the inducer / exducer, no wonder it is in a huge compressor cover. That's like equivalent to larger than a S359. I don't think you're going to like that at all.
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